tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post705490731345636539..comments2024-03-21T04:02:46.799-07:00Comments on Little Catholic Bubble: Man to Man: Combatting the Crisis of ManhoodLeila@LittleCatholicBubblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-35304020234153244902016-01-26T17:03:18.430-07:002016-01-26T17:03:18.430-07:00Bob, the devil (represented by the serpent) wants ...Bob, the devil (represented by the serpent) wants nothing more than to see us fall into sin. Homosexual acts are grave (mortal) sins. So yes, all sin is championed by the devil. He prowls throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls, and the <i>sin du jour</i> is, collectively, the LGBT "agenda" and normalization that permeates pretty much every aspect of American life on a daily basis anymore. Hope that helps.<br /><br />Sorry you feel that way about the "shamefest". My husband and others think it is powerful and amazing. Men, step up! We love our men and we want them to be strong and honorable. Most men want to be strong and honorable, too, I really believe. But no one calls them to it anymore. Men are degraded in this society. Time for that to stop.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-76832448369506749432016-01-26T16:12:39.535-07:002016-01-26T16:12:39.535-07:00They showed a gay pride parade immediately followe...They showed a gay pride parade immediately followed by a slithering snake. Subliminal message maybe? The rest of the video is just a shamefest directed at men. If you really want to know the real deal, then read Helen Smith's book; "Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - And Why It Matters." Bob Bolondzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06048836059802737470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-4840135873825447542016-01-26T15:49:46.683-07:002016-01-26T15:49:46.683-07:00Bob, what a bizarre question. What on earth would ...Bob, what a bizarre question. What on earth would make you ask such a thing?<br />If you are just trolling, please move along. If you want an intelligent discussion, feel free to stay and ask something intelligent. Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-78826782459277777842016-01-26T15:37:16.042-07:002016-01-26T15:37:16.042-07:00So the makers of this video think gay people are s...So the makers of this video think gay people are serpents?Bob Bolondzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06048836059802737470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-57219547145321200682016-01-22T09:40:10.653-07:002016-01-22T09:40:10.653-07:00One other thing; the American marriage crisis fall...One other thing; the American marriage crisis falls along socio-economic lines. The lower classes are opting out of marriage, while the upper-middle, and upper classes continue to marry. This video doesn't directly address this, but the main issue for lower/working class men is marrying the mothers of their kids, and the main issue of the higher earners is to turn away from materialism. Family life improves when a father is married to the mother, and isn't distracted by materialism. PRGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06655050229859170723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-77769803658491704472016-01-22T09:32:50.636-07:002016-01-22T09:32:50.636-07:00One of the problems I see here is that the landsca...One of the problems I see here is that the landscape of American life has changed a great deal. We are no longer living in a post-war America; (for a man) finish high school, do your military service, come home, find a good paying job, marry, buy a house, have kids. There used to be an order that most Americans followed. America isn't like that anymore. <br /><br />How many 21 year old men earn enough to just support themselves, let alone a wife and children. Not many. Entry-level employment requires more than just a high school diploma. Some college or technical education is the only way to earn more than $10 per hour. As far as being financially stable, the very least a man should be able to do is support himself without financial assistance. If you can't afford to move out of your parents' house or live without roommates, you aren't ready to support a family. For many men in their 20s, this is the reality. PRGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06655050229859170723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-73763397333242659632016-01-21T20:50:03.621-07:002016-01-21T20:50:03.621-07:00There have been several comments here about how yo...There have been several comments here about how you should delay marriage until you are financially stable and earning a living wage. I think these commenters are getting it backwards - we shouldn't be advising people to wait for marriage but we should be putting a lot more pressure on employers to pay living wages, so that people don't feel trapped by poverty. You're never going to see an encyclical on why you need to be financially secure to get married, but more than one pope has written about the fact that not paying living wages is an injustice that cries out to heaven for vengeance. (See Rerum Novarum and Laborem Exercens).Munchie Mommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02235606806806233833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-40005639951526047912016-01-19T21:11:38.360-07:002016-01-19T21:11:38.360-07:00Wow! God bless you! In time, the courage will come...Wow! God bless you! In time, the courage will come. It will be quite freeing, actually. God is funny that way, but He's also so gentle, and He will not push. (But He will nudge! ha ha!)Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-74505331383538635182016-01-19T19:31:30.950-07:002016-01-19T19:31:30.950-07:00I stumbled upon your blog a few years ago. I had w...I stumbled upon your blog a few years ago. I had wandered from the Adventist church but I was still interested in religious discussions. Your blog, though at the time clashed with my political views, spoke to me because it was very biblical. I knew deep down inside you were speaking some hard truths the world didn't want to hear. So I kept reading and only recently started commenting. I came back to my church also so I am starting to see more and more where you are coming from. I genuinely don't have the courage to say half the things you say on your blog. My liberal, secular friends would crucify me. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17593706425834744030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-50424782343075803222016-01-19T19:23:26.862-07:002016-01-19T19:23:26.862-07:00Wow, welcome!! How did you find us? :)Wow, welcome!! How did you find us? :)Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-14437607546760187872016-01-19T19:18:28.248-07:002016-01-19T19:18:28.248-07:00Haha I'm not Catholic by the way - I'm sev...Haha I'm not Catholic by the way - I'm seventh day Adventist. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17593706425834744030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-42666896710239757772016-01-19T19:13:14.548-07:002016-01-19T19:13:14.548-07:00You are right. That is why evangelization is so im...You are right. That is why evangelization is so important. People need to know Christ, intimately. They need to turn to God. So, I think in many ways, I am trying simply to get the <i>Catholics</i> in America to see that many of their (our) assumptions are more in line with secular values than any Catholic principle or truth. I'm always going to try to reach those weak Catholics, like I was for so much of my life. Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-54669737550510885652016-01-19T19:07:04.035-07:002016-01-19T19:07:04.035-07:00And I'm off on a tangent again...And I'm off on a tangent again...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17593706425834744030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-10898675143376887942016-01-19T19:06:38.712-07:002016-01-19T19:06:38.712-07:00Without God it is impossible to have the best marr...Without God it is impossible to have the best marriage. I know people who aren't religious who have good marriages, but it isn't what it could be if they were religious. If you are coming from a completely secular standpoint, marriage loses its divine meaning and origin. Unless you believe in the creation story, what meaning can marriage have beyond the material? <br /><br />But we are living in an increasingly godless society, so of course marriage is also falling apart. Look at the 50% divorce rate. But if I try to tell my secular friends this, they look at me like I've lost my mind. So I really don't know what to tell you. Unless people submit to the Holy Spirit, we will keep going in circles! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17593706425834744030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-30517054697147182102016-01-19T18:53:34.071-07:002016-01-19T18:53:34.071-07:00Sunwoo Shim, I agree with everything you have said...Sunwoo Shim, I agree with everything you have said! Yes, you are correct. Here, then is the problem: If 99% of young people are not ready to get married, what makes them "ready" in four, five, or ten ensuing years? I would say that nothing except (maybe) finances? Because unless they get a sense of God and a sense of the truth of marriage, won't they still encounter the same pitfalls and dangers, and be at risk of divorce even later?<br /><br />As for the "fight" with Uncle Fester.... that began several posts ago, unfortunately. I didn't realize he was still so upset about Bishop Olmsted's wonderful exhortation to Catholic men. :(Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-68584156051868803232016-01-19T18:20:29.927-07:002016-01-19T18:20:29.927-07:00It's not at all a coincidence that the success...It's not at all a coincidence that the successful young couples you know are religious, but now I just realized you probably were talking to religious people mainly with this post. Which makes sense (although again I know a lot of Christians who aren't ready for young marriage).<br /><br />Marriage in and of itself is what we were designed for and destined for though, I agree. And I wish our culture took it more seriously and encouraged the youth to strive to become worthy of it one day too. It's really hard for religious and romantic people like me living in this hookup culture, it really is.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17593706425834744030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-87972999310844790872016-01-19T18:12:42.750-07:002016-01-19T18:12:42.750-07:00Ok I see a fight has broken out but I'm not go...Ok I see a fight has broken out but I'm not going to get into that.<br /><br />Leila - I see where you're coming from. You're not saying get married young, you're saying don't discourage people from getting married young. I guess what I'm saying is that like 99% of people aren't ready to get married young. The people you know who married young and it turned out well come from a statistical minority - people who were raised by godly, devout parents who set a great spiritual example in the home. The vast majority of Americans aren't raised in those homes, so marrying young is a recipe for disaster. What a wonderful place the world would be if we all were raised right and we're ready for marriage by 21 or 22. But that's not our world. <br /><br />Marriage is a worthy vocation, but, most aren't worthy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17593706425834744030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-26648132815046589702016-01-19T15:00:48.679-07:002016-01-19T15:00:48.679-07:00"And BTW, PRG and I STILL want to know what m..."And BTW, PRG and I STILL want to know what men are guilty of, that women aren't equally guilty of. This is the fourth request."<br /><br />Guilty of? I have no idea what that means. The letter and the video are a call to action by men, for men. If you don't see that men are floundering in a culture that disregards them and their gifts, then I can't make you see it, nor can I make you appreciate what the Bishop has done here. Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-19172676597987246532016-01-19T13:12:15.699-07:002016-01-19T13:12:15.699-07:00"Fine, the panel had some men. But they did a..."Fine, the panel had some men. But they did a lousy job of representing men. How's that? Why is this such a sore point with you?"<br /><br />That's your apology?<br /><br />Wow.<br /><br />The panel did not have "some men", the panel was <i>majority</i> men, unlike your false accusation. And since you were not there for those hours and presentations, you have zero way of ascertaining that "they did a lousy job of representing men". Give me a break.<br /><br />I hope you do go to an open forum discussion. Join some mens' groups, even lead them (I know single, older men who do that, even in my own parish). Then, you will be able to have a bigger voice. <br /><br />God bless and farewell.<br /><br />Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-48669057355063608352016-01-19T12:58:55.286-07:002016-01-19T12:58:55.286-07:00Fine, the panel had some men. But they did a lousy...Fine, the panel had some men. But they did a lousy job of representing men. How's that? Why is this such a sore point with you? It doesn't change my observations that the paper and the video both bash men in a subtle and non-specific way.<br /><br />You want me to leave? Fine. This blog has been a miserable experience so far, looking at the insults you've tossed my way. Just like the Knight who told me that "non family men need not apply," you'd prefer I just go home and close the door. OK, done.<br /><br />But if the diocese ever holds an open forum discussion, I guarantee I'll be there. I will remember this interaction.<br /><br />And BTW, PRG and I STILL want to know what men are guilty of, that women aren't equally guilty of. This is the fourth request.<br />Uncle Festerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04093386314451435594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-55843765253705646182016-01-19T12:40:39.349-07:002016-01-19T12:40:39.349-07:00Sebastian, yes! I totally agree with this, and I s...Sebastian, yes! I totally agree with this, and I start with this as a given: <i>I would only encourage it if both bride and groom have some grounding in the Catholic understanding of marriage and are prepared to go through all sorts of difficulties, financial and otherwise, together.</i><br /><br />And more than encouraging young marriage in the general population, I would simply not <i>discourage</i> it, as is done nowadays. Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-33519407579781440882016-01-19T12:38:55.494-07:002016-01-19T12:38:55.494-07:00Uncle Fester:
You BLATANTLY lied about the make-u...Uncle Fester:<br /><br />You BLATANTLY lied about the make-up of the advisory panel. No apology from you when corrected. You also have no idea whatsoever what was said in that advisory panel, because you were not there, and yet you keep insisting that you know. I encourage everyone to listen to the radio show that you posted and they can judge for themselves the merits of what I <i>and Mike</i> talked about (hint: We did not disclose the contents of a very lengthy and incredible round-table discussion comprised mostly of men. In fact, two of the four women were not even presenters). Again, to willfully misrepresent others is a sin. You are now willfully misrepresenting others, as I have corrected your errors and yet you persist. <br /><br />Please refrain from any more comment here. I've given you enough of a forum for your opinions, and now they don't even comport with the truth. Enough. Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-36465200178634969642016-01-19T12:33:24.811-07:002016-01-19T12:33:24.811-07:00"I like how Mike Phalen (who is a great man, ..."I like how Mike Phalen (who is a great man, the head of our family life center at the diocese, and the guy in the radio interview with me) put it: Boys/men these days go from the GameBoy to Playboy to LazyBoy."<br /><br />And if stereotypical and insulting nonsense like that comes from an official representative of the diocese, can you see why he has no credibility in my eyes?Uncle Festerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04093386314451435594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-27194694045244946702016-01-19T12:29:57.205-07:002016-01-19T12:29:57.205-07:00I know what I heard. The principal speakers that y...I know what I heard. The principal speakers that you all gushed over, were women. Men's contributions weren't mentioned at all. The bishop needed men to step up and challenge... to defend men in specific and pointed ways. I see none of that in the paper. I'm confident in my conclusions. <br /><br />PRG asked it, and again so will I: what exactly have men done that women are not equally guilty of? Maybe you could consider the entirety of what I posted, please.<br /><br />If the diocese ever starts a meaningful discussion on this topic, I'd be glad to move my ideas there. But until that happens, you're as close to a Diocesan representative that exists. Disagree with me if you like, but please do so constructively. No "sheeshes", please.Uncle Festerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04093386314451435594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-51775096902076333342016-01-19T12:25:48.378-07:002016-01-19T12:25:48.378-07:00Thank you PRG and Leila for your considerate answe...Thank you PRG and Leila for your considerate answers. Perhaps I should clarify that I am not in any way against marrying young, but in today's economic environment I would only encourage it if both bride and groom have some grounding in the Catholic understanding of marriage and are prepared to go through all sorts of difficulties, financial and otherwise, together. As Leila pointed out, not all newly-weds will be engineers or doctors where you still have reasonable assurance that you will be able to provide and pay off debts. <br /><br />It's also great if both are committed to abandoning themselves to God's providence come what may, and not have materialistic aims. But I guess that is still very much the exception and always will be. Fallen man is worried and thinks about his needs, safety and security first.Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03993048824594772782noreply@blogger.com