tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post4183156200807958794..comments2024-03-21T04:02:46.799-07:00Comments on Little Catholic Bubble: Habemus Papam! Francis!Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-51695494103684180982013-03-19T20:47:20.872-07:002013-03-19T20:47:20.872-07:00In our family, we read about all the papabile and ...In our family, we read about all the papabile and guessed who would be pope. My 10 year old, who wins everything, guessed Bergoglio.<br /><br />I'm glad to hear the younger Jesuits are following the Church. We recently read a book about St. Isaac Jogues. With Pope Francis following on this so closely, my boys are talking about becoming Jesuits when they grow up.<br /><br />And as long as Leila doesn't mind my linking to my posts, I'm going to do it again. Let me know if you get tired of it! :) I wrote a biography of the new pope for kids and related teaching ideas at <br />http://contemplativehomeschool.wordpress.com/2013/03/19/meet-pope-francis-for-kids-and-their-parents/<br />Connie Rossinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16167873116105163091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-33391446375159775402013-03-18T08:22:45.372-07:002013-03-18T08:22:45.372-07:00Johanne, great question! I always assumed it liter...Johanne, great question! I always assumed it literally meant "papa" -- and I think I am correct, except that I mixed up the order. This etymological analysis says that the word "papa" came from the word "pope"! (Tell me if you think I am reading this wrong:<br /><br />pope (n.) <br />Old English papa (9c.), from Church Latin papa "bishop, pope" (in classical Latin, "tutor"), from Greek papas "patriarch, bishop," originally "father." Applied to bishops of Asia Minor and taken as a title by the Bishop of Alexandria c.250. In Western Church, applied especially to the Bishop of Rome since the time of Leo the Great (440-461) and claimed exclusively by them from 1073 (usually in English with a capital P-).<br /><br />http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=pope<br /><br />Johanne, as a non-Catholic, I'd love your thoughts on our new Holy Father! What are your impressions? Did you have interest in the conclave as it went on? Let us know! I am very interested in the non-Catholic take on this whole thing. :)<br /><br />Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-13245840359251977832013-03-18T00:28:40.415-07:002013-03-18T00:28:40.415-07:00Question: Is "papa" a term of affection ...Question: Is "papa" a term of affection or does it literally mean "pope" in another language? Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-40138916805884123292013-03-17T09:12:02.131-07:002013-03-17T09:12:02.131-07:00My liberal atheist sister sent me an email of cong...My liberal atheist sister sent me an email of congratulations almost immediately after his election and said it was exciting even for her! She likes that he took the bus. It would be great if he was the one that helped open that door to faith for her. I can only pray. <br /><br />My reaction was similar to what most said here, "Huh?" but then soon followed by great joy and I am thrilled! I know the Holy Spirit is behind all of this. The fact that most of us didn't know who he was and that there was little mention of him before the conclave is even more a testament to that.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16574404020737651409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-20114020623373235942013-03-16T16:55:05.621-07:002013-03-16T16:55:05.621-07:00I agree. Some people, when I say, "Such and s...I agree. Some people, when I say, "Such and such is a good, orthodox priest" think I am saying he is a priest in the Orthodox Church. Oops! Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11889780681891693861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-50121736303081653772013-03-16T09:09:13.734-07:002013-03-16T09:09:13.734-07:00It's really a shame we have to label priests a...It's really a shame we have to label priests as being orthodox, liberal, conservative, etc. I have used the term orthodox and such when referring to priests for many years. I have recently tried to pull back on using such labels, because I am never completely sure who my audience is. When I am talking to good knowledgeable Catholics, they understand those terms. If I am speaking to a non-Catholic or a Catholic who may not understand their faith as much, I could create some misunderstandings. The job of a priest is to subject themselves to the will of the Church and to be obedient. If I'm not careful, I could be misleading somebody to believe it is okay for there be these different types of priests and as a priest they have their choice or have been empowered to use their own interpretations. <br /><br />Sadly, there are priests who are not 100% in sync with the Church and that is why we use the labels we do. We just have to be careful to not create additional misunderstandings.<br /><br />I was once told by a priest that if you ever want the answer to something on Catholicism to never ask a priest, because a better source would be the Catechism of the Church. I thought that was interesting.Tonkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13791014787615428342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-67719683005705604102013-03-15T18:25:56.723-07:002013-03-15T18:25:56.723-07:00SarahLee, that is wonderful! I am thrilled that th...SarahLee, that is wonderful! I am thrilled that the younger Jesuits are around and kicking (along with the much older ones)! I guess it's too many in that middle group that give the rest of them a bad name! I sense a great renewal in the order now. Those young, holy, faithful Jesuits and seminarians must be beside themselves with joy. :)Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-36488501690652619382013-03-15T12:27:02.630-07:002013-03-15T12:27:02.630-07:00My heart did not sink when I heard he was a Jesuit...My heart did not sink when I heard he was a Jesuit! I attended a Jesuit university (graduating with my MA in 2009) and I worked in the Jesuit residence as a receptionist. Nearly ALL of the young (35 and under) Jesuits I knew were holy people who love the Church and defend her. I know there are many Jesuits who have not done so in the last 50 years, but if my experience with this new crop of seminarians and priests is any indication, the order is experiencing a change! In fact, there was a group of about 10 Jesuit scholastics who attended the TLM parish that my husband and I did while I was in grad school. Many many very good men coming through now. <br /><br />As for Papa Francis, when someone described him as a "deeply humble, doctrinally orthodox, champion of social justice" I was hooked. I love it. SarahLee08https://www.blogger.com/profile/10859287600772206570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-19246957488865876262013-03-15T07:48:25.322-07:002013-03-15T07:48:25.322-07:00Joe, I also noted and loved the "Father of Li...Joe, I also noted and loved the "Father of Lies" statement! I knew then that all was well. :)Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-35198659782423073382013-03-15T07:29:24.784-07:002013-03-15T07:29:24.784-07:00I love the fact that he sneaks out and rides the b...I love the fact that he sneaks out and rides the bus around Rome instead of taking a motorcade. It's the kind of thing you always daydream that you'd do if you were president or something (at least I do) but none of them ever actually do it. He also seems to speak very frankly (unplanned pun) about things like the "Father of Lies" where most people would use more political language, and that too is something I always wish a leader would do.<br /><br />On a related note: I bet Joe Biden is going to take a 20-car motorcade and dozens of attendants when he goes to Rome for the inaugural Mass... what a contrast that'll make.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-24201200879574262642013-03-15T00:04:53.168-07:002013-03-15T00:04:53.168-07:00Sharon, that is going to be the interesting part! ...Sharon, that is going to be the interesting part! He is not into the "trappings" of the papacy (even though all of that is about the office, more than the man), but I believe that is a personal comfort level, rather than a judgment or condemnation of such things. He will be a different facet of Peter than others have been. JPII and Benedict were teachers <i>exactly </i>when we needed them, and now Francis will show us how to live that teaching out in the streets of the world, so to speak. I love that God made each of us unique, with unique gifts, and expects us to use them for his glory and the salvation of souls. I see all our popes doing exactly that, and never losing their individuality. I am giddy with excitement to see what this papacy holds!Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-18410014588155966442013-03-15T00:00:08.190-07:002013-03-15T00:00:08.190-07:00Chris, sorry that your link to the twitter story w...Chris, sorry that your link to the twitter story was caught in spam for a time!<br /><br />As for the Jesuits, they have a reputation since after Vatican II for being notoriously dissident. They are (not all, but a lot) rebellious on doctrine. They are intellectuals (thus all the schools and universities), but many have "thought" their way right out of the Church in a sense…. Instead of obedience to the Church (their sacred oath), they seem to view the Church and her teachings as a bit too pedestrian and quaint (medieval?) for their liking. There are still some faithful Jesuits of course (think of Fr. Fessio, Fr. Hardon (RIP)), but lately Jesuits and Jesuit institutions have deviated greatly from fidelity to the Magisterium.<br /><br />Many of the Jesuit universities (Boston College where I went [and where everyone I know lost his or her faith], Georgetown, Fordham, Santa Clara, and more) appear to be Catholic in name only. I would never in a million years want my child in a Jesuit school, frankly, except to go in as a missionary!<br /><br />The Jesuits are known for their "social justice" stance, but not so much for caring about the truth and meaning of human sexuality, for example, or the tenets of the Creed. I am not sure I heard much about piety, obedience, sin, the truth of the resurrection of Christ, Marian devotion, etc. from the Jesuit community in general. <br /><br />My nephew arrived at a Jesuit campus this year and is shellshocked at the lack of belief and piety. Again, there are very devout Jesuits, so don't get me wrong, but they are few and far between. There is a hope that Pope Francis might be able to "clean house" in his own order. Clearly, he is a Jesuit that is faithful to his vows and his order's founder. :)Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-3254327493788485252013-03-14T22:39:09.360-07:002013-03-14T22:39:09.360-07:00Leila, thanks for the correction on the quote!
Af...Leila, thanks for the correction on the quote!<br /><br />After seeing articles about Pope Francis's first day, I find him very interesting. He is continuing his habit of avoiding special attention and extra expense. It reminds me of stories about Pope St. Pius X, who always wanted to give everything to the poor. Francis has even asked his bishops, priests and nuns in Argentina to give money to the poor instead of spending it to come to Rome. You've probably seen the cute picture of him even checking out of his hotel and paying his own bill! One copy of that photo on FB makes it look as if the hotel clerk can't find his bill and he says, Oh, I checked in under another name. Maybe you're the one who posted that, Leila, I don't remember! I wonder if that will continue, and how it will come across. I don't mind pomp surrounding the pope - he is a BIG DEAL, not because of himself but because of his position. But if he wants to be more subdued, well he is being himself, and that will be a different thing to experience. He is not subdued in his seriousness toward the faith, from the sound of his first homily! May God bless him and Mary keep him protected in her mantle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-88496217081329683242013-03-14T21:58:48.828-07:002013-03-14T21:58:48.828-07:00A little interesting thing
http://www.dailydot.co...A little interesting thing<br /><br />http://www.dailydot.com/society/pope-francis-dream-came-true/Chris Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02256704303520776966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-29283670808365294532013-03-14T14:31:31.008-07:002013-03-14T14:31:31.008-07:00Just a quick question: Why are Jesuits perceived a...Just a quick question: Why are Jesuits perceived as liberal?Chris Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02256704303520776966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-56534576186054541462013-03-14T08:45:49.423-07:002013-03-14T08:45:49.423-07:00Love him already - so so happy!Love him already - so so happy!Danzmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14065136695230954179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-50231401699775531482013-03-14T08:42:07.647-07:002013-03-14T08:42:07.647-07:00Nubby, bingo!!
And, I love Larry D's take on ...Nubby, bingo!!<br /><br />And, I love Larry D's take on the "sky is falling" types:<br /><br />http://actsoftheapostasy.wordpress.com/2013/03/14/his-holiness-pope-francis/Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-87712287181192319312013-03-14T08:36:16.313-07:002013-03-14T08:36:16.313-07:00An interesting point I heard today regarding Pope ...An interesting point I heard today regarding Pope Francis is that his native tongue is an international language (Spanish) unlike Polish or German in the popes before him. This will be a good thing, in that Pope Francis' thoughts and words will be immediately understood by millions, straight from the heart, before translation. Thought that was interesting, anyway.<br /><br />Another point, I see a lot of people leaving comments on other sites, all lathered up about the liturgical practices they fear Pope Francis will dismantle or ruin. How about we sit back and let the man be Pope a while before we run crazy with 'the sky is falling'? How about we pray for him in his new mission?Nubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15972118374098863290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-45368893828058627332013-03-14T08:14:13.155-07:002013-03-14T08:14:13.155-07:00Morning, everyone!! Yes, I think all of our hearts...Morning, everyone!! Yes, I think all of our hearts sunk a little when we first heard he was a Jesuit (I went to Boston College, my sister went to Santa Clara, and the stories could make your hair curl), but then I remembered that when the Jesuits are faithful (Fessio, Hardon), they are SOLID. <br /><br />Sebastian, you are so right about the different liturgical characteristics in different cultures. The Native Americans here, the Africans in Africa, and South America has its own culture. So, Andre is trying to "find" something to tweak us, I fear. ;) Not gonna work. Find something a little more substantive and significant, Andre. :)<br /><br />Tonka, welcome! So glad you came out of lurkdom! Stay? :)<br /><br />Sarah, you are right. I wrote about that media-made condom debacle, here:<br /><br />http://littlecatholicbubble.blogspot.com/2010/11/pope-and-condoms.html<br /><br />Sharon, so happy that this pope is Marian! It is hard to be a dissident and have a true devotion to Mary, if you know what I mean. Very wonderful! I expect to learn SO much from this Pope. Our American notion of the poor and what that means is so vastly different from the rest of the world, and I need to expand my understanding of these issues. South America is not like the USA. I need his wisdom, his insights. <br /><br />One clarifying point that I may need to hammer home a lot (and you all should to), St. Francis never said, "Preach the gospel always and when necessary use words." Brandon Vogt's head is exploding now that people are using that, ha ha! It has been used too often to excuse inaction and silence by Catholics who don't want to speak up or defend the faith or evangelize. I used to use it myself, but it always bothered me on some level. When I realized St. Francis never said it, I was relieved. We cannot hide behind that now, and we must <b>speak</b> the Word and the Truth as well as also living it. :)<br /><br />Anabelle, that picture is just breathtaking. <br />Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-52401456257243753572013-03-14T07:50:01.328-07:002013-03-14T07:50:01.328-07:00I love him already, Leila. How can you not love a...I love him already, Leila. How can you not love a humble, conservative Jesuit (which I thought was an oxymoron until now)? If you don't already like him, check out this poignant picture on http://8kidsandabusiness.wordpress.com/2013/03/13/servant-of-the-servants-of-god/Anabelle Hazardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00106609754311503527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-86800068489095413632013-03-14T07:40:00.234-07:002013-03-14T07:40:00.234-07:00I have to be perfectly honest. I was happy and gr...I have to be perfectly honest. I was happy and grateful when our Holy Father was first announced, but somehow apprehensive. Jesuit? As in, Georgetown? So I was thrown a bit by that. And while I know his love of the poor is impressive, right away I started hearing the phrase "preferential option for the poor", which is sometimes associated with treating the Church as though its primary mission is to be the world's social workers, when love of Christ has to be primary, and has to infuse all of our actions for the poor. I know, St. Francis himself said to preach the gospel and if necessary, use words, so we don't have to vocally evangelize all the time, but there should be no doubt in anyone's mind what is motivating our love and concern for the poor and suffering. Maybe what made me a little apprehensive, too, is I wondered if this would signal a turn away from the new evangelization.<br /><br />But - this morning when I said my rosary and it came to the first Our Father and three Hail Marys, I teared up when I said, "For the Holy Father, Pope Francis" for the first time. And then I came home and saw that he brought flowers for the Blessed Mother this morning at the Basilica of St. Mary Major. He is placing the Church in the best of hands, and I think there will be many surprises for us as we get to know our new Holy Father better. And I do love St. Francis! My son's high school is named for him and St. Francis is that son's Confirmation patron. Such a wonderful name for our Holy Father!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-66394757682329533942013-03-14T05:55:23.747-07:002013-03-14T05:55:23.747-07:00wow can you tell I was typing with a squirmy baby ...wow can you tell I was typing with a squirmy baby on my lap lol!! Sorry. But yeah, at most Pope Francis might have shown support for B16's comment that was out of context. Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04966555296621723142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-11755660861157470162013-03-14T05:54:05.379-07:002013-03-14T05:54:05.379-07:00DD - I think is actually a reference to something ...DD - I think is actually a reference to something Pope Benedict sais that was widely taken out of context. I just got finished reading a lovely anti-Catholic piece in the New Yorker that referenced this B16 quote (inaccurately of course) but did not attribute anything to Francis (and if Pope Francis had said anything remotely similar, I'd think they'd be all over that).Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04966555296621723142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-7304713447951465472013-03-14T05:20:51.156-07:002013-03-14T05:20:51.156-07:00I did read that he is "for" contraceptio...I did read that he is "for" contraception to prevent disease. Not sure if this was taken out of context, but it surprised me. Then I read other places where he clearly was against giving Argentinans free contraceptives, so I have a feeling somewhere he was misquoted. Anyone else hear of this about him? <br /><br />DDDDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02274091412731174214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-13427825773723849092013-03-14T05:17:07.691-07:002013-03-14T05:17:07.691-07:00Hello All, long time reader but first time poster....Hello All, long time reader but first time poster. My thoughts on our new Pope: I love him. I felt a bone tingling chill and then an overwhelming sense of calm after he was announced. The Holy Spirit truly working.<br /><br />St. Francis began his ministry when he heard God speak to him, "Francis, re-build my Church". Love it.<br /><br />Love the seagull perched on the chimney before the white smoke. If you research seagulls, you will learn they are a very intelligent bird, have complex social structures, and will ward off predators. In Lore and Mythology, seagulls will travel between earth the heaven world as messengers bringing messages to mortals. How fitting.<br /><br />Great day yesterday! The Church is in good hands! I love being Catholic! Life is good!Tonkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13791014787615428342noreply@blogger.com