tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post2558042124555383598..comments2024-03-21T04:02:46.799-07:00Comments on Little Catholic Bubble: Just Curious: Are you a child of divorce?Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comBlogger166125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-2849551071638572812012-02-02T17:37:36.499-07:002012-02-02T17:37:36.499-07:00After being raised in a solid Catholic home where ...After being raised in a solid Catholic home where "divorce was not an option" and "marriage is forever no matter what" my parents divorced (civil) after over 40 years of marriage (no annulment sought).<br /><br />It tore our family to bits.<br />My husband and I set strict boundaries around having our children exposed to their new....'living arrangements' and it caused a great divide, as all the other siblings were pleased that mom and dad were getting on with their lives and 'happy.'<br /><br />This is a very strange turn of events, but one that keeps me grounded in the sacraments and devoted to training our children in the faith and deepening my marriage relationship with my husband as we grow in holiness together. Praise God for His Endless Mercy!BRIDGEThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15535242094051545299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-2840781564121413722012-01-28T18:43:02.591-07:002012-01-28T18:43:02.591-07:00My parents had been married for 26 years when they...My parents had been married for 26 years when they divorced, 6 years ago. I was 25 at the time.The Vermilion Sparrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01531450691778942914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-33055731853090011652012-01-12T21:11:44.016-07:002012-01-12T21:11:44.016-07:00Leila,
I was only 19 when we met and still in coll...Leila,<br />I was only 19 when we met and still in college ( my parents would have said I was too young and finish school first- as this is what they had told my older sister). Also the first of the 6 years we were just good friends, actually both dating other people, then at the end we were engaged for one year.<br />My husband is 4 years older but went farther in college than I did, so he did want to finish his degree before we married.<br />While we were involved in our young adult parish bible study group, and both sunday mass attendees - we had no clue about so much about the faith due to the horrible catechisis we recieved- me at saturday CCD classes, then catholic girls high school where the religion taught was half feminism/ liberal theology of sorts. he went to Catholic school K-12 and probably didnt learn much more than i did.<br />I will appeal to Rome if God forbid it comes to that.<br />as it is we are still "just"( as if it is not still horrible in every way) separated at this time.<br />what shocked/upset me so much was this priest ENCOURAGING Divorce by suggesting how easy it would be to get our sacrament- and family of our children- annulled.theresehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11369775824949574125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-66664305549551548042012-01-12T16:00:31.900-07:002012-01-12T16:00:31.900-07:00That was powerful.That was powerful.maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05613163382453563548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-1198361420265132142012-01-12T12:24:08.041-07:002012-01-12T12:24:08.041-07:00Therese, I have seen Mary's Advocates and I wh...Therese, I have seen Mary's Advocates and I wholeheartedly support that! (That whole thing made me sick!)<br /><br />I would tell everyone who contests a declaration of nullity to appeal to Rome! That is our right! I do think the "psychological reasons" are way over used. <br /><br />Just out of curiosity, why did you date for six years before getting married? Was that "delay" his idea?<br /><br />Thanks for bringing this sad situation to our attention. And thanks for your faithfulness!! You are a strong woman, and an amazing example.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-64660801974579203942012-01-12T12:09:39.148-07:002012-01-12T12:09:39.148-07:00in reply to Julie- I think the reason so many chil...in reply to Julie- I think the reason so many childrens movies portray Divorced parents, is the liberal agenda to "normalize" it. <br />Years ago- a wonderful 80 year old friend I have- her husband abandoned her for her best friend even while she was in the hospital recovering from childbirth. In those days- the pastor told her that SHE was to blame- that SHE must have done something to make her husband leave her and her children. He went on to leave the second wife too.<br />but now the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction where divorce is OK even for low conflict marriages where there is not infidelity, not abuse, no drugs/ alcholism ...<br />not that any of that makes it ok to divorce in the catholic church anyhow.- most of the time unless the marriage was not valid from the begining all the church permits is for permanent separation. but in GOds eyes the couple is still married to each other and as such cannot run around dating/ remarrying.<br />to do so is adultery.theresehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11369775824949574125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-54549708364990709142012-01-12T12:02:22.962-07:002012-01-12T12:02:22.962-07:00I wanted to comment on the annulment thing.
I am s...I wanted to comment on the annulment thing.<br />I am still married to my husband of 21 years. we were both life long committed catholics, met in our parish young adult group, dated 6 years. at the time of our marriage i wrote in my journal that I was so happy to be marrying my best friend. we used NFP- at least initially. so based on THE TIME OF THE CEREMONY- we have a valid marriage. <br />I know youre going to do the annulment thing later- but..<br />few years ago dear husband decided the grass is greener out there- several- yes several priests apparantly have told him that he could maybe get an annulment. the reason?<br />he now claims he had doubts, and that we arent compatible.<br />well this isnt one of the things that would make a marriage invalid.<br />yet according to the american church tribunals more and more unions are declared invalid on the basis of psychological stuff. not the minority of cases where one is married to an ax murderer, or psychotic satanist person.<br />but the majority of cases where the couple, or one of them, choose sin , selfishness ,choose what they want over what is best for their children,.<br />rather than putting GOd at the center of the marriage often we focus on OURSELVES.<br /> there.<br />I argued with this priest over this- he told me he has NEVER had an annulment denied.<br />are there really that many priests not preparing couples properly before marriage that they do not know at the time of the ceremony that they are promising to be faithful, to be open to life and are entering into this freely.<br />If anyone is interested check out Marys advocates at defending marriage has a lot of info on this subject.<br />Also i do believe that many Catholics in the pews do not know that one can appeal a tribuanal from the united states to the Roman Rota. statisticly 90some percent of the american tribunal cases are overturned at the roman rota and indeed found to be valid sacramental marriages.<br /> Robert Vasoli wrote a book-What God has joined together- the annulment crisis in american cathoicism. He like many of us- did not know the full extent of this crisis untill he himself was in it.<br />Our church teachings are very clear- nothing but death of the spouse ends a valid marriage.<br />rather than being the purpose of just making us happy, marriage is a sacrament through which we learn to love unselfishly our spouse and children, putting them before ourselves and help our spouse/children get to heaven.<br />along the way- in doing what God wants we find happiness. <br />since i have been separated and in this crisis- i have embraced my faith, learned as much as I can about this subject and marriage as the church teaches. So the end result is am committed to it and to the salvation of my husband and family regardless.theresehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11369775824949574125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-28097152909435293462012-01-11T18:22:17.464-07:002012-01-11T18:22:17.464-07:00My parents are still married to each other. My hea...My parents are still married to each other. My heart ached as I read through the combox. Leila, have you heard of inner healing? It may provide material for a follow-up post. I have experienced it first-hand from a Catholic counselor and I think it would help those who carry the scars from broken family relationships. http://tobhealing.org/ (the office I worked with - not much to their site right now but it may help with search terms for further research if you are interested.)Melanie Gillespiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02973557142019531496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-36063129895461586472012-01-11T15:16:39.741-07:002012-01-11T15:16:39.741-07:00Wow, thank you so much for sharing everyone. While...Wow, thank you so much for sharing everyone. While I don't really think divorce is an option in most cases (except last resort like a physically abusive relationship) I am a child of divorce. I was born in 1970 and none of my friend had parents who were divorced.<br /><br />My dads parents were separated but not divorced. They were good Catholics, they wouldn't do that. They just remained married but lived separate celibate lives. My mom's parents were married but had that typical dysfunctional, alcoholic,you probably should have gotten divorced look!<br /><br />Some of my aunts and uncles got divorced and I noticed that their kids (my cousins) followed in their footsteps. It's probably not setting the best example but it's more than just remaining married because God is an important factor. As Bishop Fulton Sheen says, it takes three to get married. You have to have God at the center of your life for everything. <br /><br />Marriage is the beginning of the family life. You can't expect to have a good marriage and family unless God is a big part, if not the main part, of that life!<br /><br />For myself, both parents put others over their own kids and got remarried. I am married now with three children. I love my kids so much and I don't understand how my own parents don't love me. And it's ok, they really don't. As I get older I realize some people are just incapable of having loving feelings. It's usually the same people that put material things and money ahead of their family.<br /><br />But we must remember that God loves us all and no matter where we came from, He wants us to be with Him. God bless everyone!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-17698303807610788412012-01-11T13:21:02.540-07:002012-01-11T13:21:02.540-07:00teresa, WOW! Girlfriend, you are amazing!! There s...teresa, WOW! Girlfriend, you are amazing!! There seems to be always at least one "light" left in a family when the rest have gone astray and you are it! I am so glad you found the Bubble, too. Email me if you have the chance!<br /><br />Blessings!Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-19647575126912616742012-01-11T12:01:43.596-07:002012-01-11T12:01:43.596-07:00First off, I just found your blog and LOVE it. I a...First off, I just found your blog and LOVE it. I am a 23 year old Catholic, constantly fighting against what you talk about in your reversion; this desire to only see and talk about God's love and mercy and not His justice. It's so difficult to be in university, such a progressive and politically correct environment, and not shrug off the justice of the Father. But, thankfully I have been blessed with a rather large (about 100) community of 20-something men and women who are seeking to live lives of radical holiness and fidelity to the Church. So thank you for yet another resource!<br />I am a child of divorce. Youngest of seven children from a "very Catholic" family. My mom tried her best (went to Mass almost every day, prayed the rosary with us, sent us to "Catholic" schools, did not use birth control [yay Mom!], etc.) But, she did not really know the reasons for her faith and I don't ever remember her explaining the "whys" and my dad always prided himself of his vast intellect, which left faith sectioned off for Sunday mornings. My dad slid into alcoholism when I was eight, began cheating on my mom when I was ten, and finally left the family when I was twelve. I think mostly because of my mom, my dad was a lector and did a lot of stuff with the parish. <br />When he left, I remember making a very clear connection between him and Him, God the Father. I was convinced that both were hypocrites not worth being vulnerable to and seeking out love from. I went through high school and sought the love that I was so desperate for in many negative ways and then sought to numb the emptiness with drugs and alcohol. Thankfully my mom did have some foundation in the Church (though she now tends towards progressive "Catholicism", pray for her!) and forced me to go to youth group. My parish was blessed to have two young devout men as our youth group leaders and for every argument I had against the Church, they had solid logical arguments to combat mine (and theirs always won!). It wasn't until I had a profound experience with Penance(first time in 5 years!) and Eucharistic Adoration (first time EVER!) one evening on retreat though that I came fully around and desired the Lord again.<br />I am now engaged and realizing that I still have emotional wounds from my parent's divorce, but with the help of a great priest my fiance and I are working through it!<br />My six older siblings have all left the church (One is now Jewish, one flirted with Bible churches and is now ambivalent, one is living a homosexual lifestyle, one prescribes to the idea that you just need to be a good person, one is atheist and the other searching) and I am confident that its due at least in part to the failure of my parents marriage.<br />Divorce is such a grave evil, especially when children are involved, as it tells the lie that love is not everlasting and faithful. It thus tells us a lie about God! It's blasphemy!!<br />Holy Mary, Queen of families, pray for us!!!teresa.kurthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12787176025246207833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-76313453309278200782012-01-11T08:16:51.909-07:002012-01-11T08:16:51.909-07:00Sharon,
I appreciate the article. Yes I do give t...Sharon,<br /><br />I appreciate the article. Yes I do give the Church credit for changes made. There is so much I want to say, but I think my point view is lost here. And I am sure you feel the same. Hurt and betrayal on this level is just hard for me to seperate. I am pleased that people can do it. I am just not one of those people. Catholicism wasn't a positive experience for me. In fact it was a painful one. I have been reflecting a lot one my experiences. I maybe asking to much from the human side of the Church, but I feel most dont ask or demand enough. So that is the root of the root. And I have exhausted this subject.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-27055984883945407662012-01-11T00:07:46.497-07:002012-01-11T00:07:46.497-07:00I am very blessed. My parents have been married f...I am very blessed. My parents have been married for 29 years and have a solid marriage. My paternal grandparents were married 54 years before my grandfather passed away. My maternal grandparents have been married for 59 years. <br /><br />Growing up almost all of my friends came from homes with married parents. I realize that that is very unusual in today's world, and I know that it is by the grace of God. <br /><br />It breaks my heart to hear all of the stories of divorce but it is beautiful to see the commitment that many of you are making?!Katyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06673189086874824209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-27095873458603285542012-01-10T23:33:08.131-07:002012-01-10T23:33:08.131-07:00Okay, I just have to point out one thing relating ...Okay, I just have to point out one thing relating to divorce. The day before your post, we watched Mr. Popper's Penguins. I was very bothered by that movie because the parents were divorced. The reason it bothered me so much is because in the book that the movie was based on, I am pretty sure that the parents are MARRIED, which means they went out of their way in the movie to make the parents divorced. They ruined an opportunity to show the ups and downs of being married and yet STAYING married. Almost makes me wonder whether they did it on purpose...Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07118651816654494082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-36435650004350121952012-01-10T22:48:29.941-07:002012-01-10T22:48:29.941-07:00Nikki, Archbishop Dolan makes some great comments ...Nikki, Archbishop Dolan makes some great comments here:<br /><br />http://blog.archny.org/?p=1127<br /><br />It's not long. I hope you get a chance to read it. <br /><br />The abuse was mishandled in so many ways, but in the defense of some bishops, they were following the advice of psychologists who did not even fully realize the depth of the evil of sexual abuse of children, how ingrained it becomes in the perpetrator. If any psychologist thought he had "successfully treated" a pedophile or pederast priest, the psychologist was mistaken, but no one fully realized that then. I know how you feel about it all though. I read an article about a sex abuse victim that was written back in '95, way before the abuse problem became big public knowledge. I thought it was horrifying and thought that my faith would be deeply shaken if it had happened to a family member of mine. It was hard on my faith as it was, just reading about what happened to someone else. But you really can't take something that happened before the scandal went public to the way things are now. Things are dealt with very differently now, thank God, and it is only fair to give the Church credit for that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-23838615130867453242012-01-10T22:29:34.022-07:002012-01-10T22:29:34.022-07:00I am behind on the comments and hope I haven't...I am behind on the comments and hope I haven't missed too much.<br /><br />My parents have been married for 56 years. My father is a recovering alcoholic, although after 43 years in AA he is probably pretty well recovered by now! I was very young when he started AA and remember nothing of his drinking, but I have been told that my mother made it clear that she would leave him and take the then-7 of us with her rather than stand by and watch him self-destruct. One of his drinking buddies died in a drunk driving accident the first night my father went to AA. We are all, the now-9 of us, very blessed that things turned out as they did. I can't imagine how hard it would have been growing up as one of the few kids of divorce and in what would have had to have been poverty. My father has Alzheimer's now and one thing he hasn't forgotten is that he is quite lucky to have my mother.<br /><br />My parents were very successful in raising 9 children who are all still Catholic, with only one divorce in the family - mine. I think I have mentioned a little of it here before. My children have suffered terribly from the loss of the family they had had. I understand completely the comment made above, that every major event in life, the things that are supposed to be great happy events like weddings and the birth of grandchildren, end up being reminders of the divorce. It is so sad.<br /><br />Fr. Damien, if you are still here, my oldest is a religious sister even though she went through several tumultuous years of rejecting God because of the divorce. I think the Blessed Mother had her eye on both you and my daughter in a special way. In spite of everything, I think now is a better time to have a vocation than the 60's to maybe mid-80's would have been, thanks to JPII and the Holy Spirit! I pray that the graces you are winning for us as a priest will allow the vocation of marriage to experience a rebirth as well.<br /><br />I am not interested in an annulment, mostly because I think it would cause more pain and confusion for my children like it did for Nikki's cousin. I have been far too busy raising my children anyhow, and I am plenty fulfilled in that job. Not that men knock on the doors of single mothers with 8 kids, but still! If my ex-husband and his wife, who was raised Catholic, really wanted to validate their marriage (her third), I suppose I would be obligated to help them in concern for their souls, but it is very unlikely that such a thing has ever crossed their minds.<br /><br />I am amazed at how few intact families there seem to be, although I know it is not really a 50% divorce rate, that the 50% is a ratio of number of divorces in a year compared to the number of marriages in a year. That is not the same as saying "half of all marriages end in divorce." My very social 14 year old could only think of two of his friends that have parents who are married to each other, but I think he subconsciously gravitates to kids who are in his situation.<br /><br />God does hate divorce, and for good reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-21278331201400852012012-01-10T21:38:07.396-07:002012-01-10T21:38:07.396-07:00Joanna,
I understand what you are saying. My poin...Joanna,<br /><br />I understand what you are saying. My point I knew at this point in my Catholic life ( priest touching boys) was a real possibility. I also know through experience that the Church's track record wasn't great with addressing this things. Just because it hadn't blown up in the secular society doesn't mean we didn't know it existed. A neighboring priest not but a year later was exposed for molesting boys for 20 years. Really this is why I get so frustrated<br /><br />Leila,<br /><br />Yes I have been a Catholic most my days. I know the poor Protestant s get to go to heaven, they just dont know the error of their ways.But there are some old timers who would disagree with ya.But the Church is clear. Thanks all I have to go to bed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-78255972707738933982012-01-10T21:11:29.796-07:002012-01-10T21:11:29.796-07:00Both convinced the are the only way to God.
You m...<i>Both convinced the are the only way to God.</i><br /><br />You might want to read my post on that, because that is not exactly a Catholic position:<br /><br />http://www.littlecatholicbubble.blogspot.com/2011/12/can-non-catholics-be-saved.html<br /><br /><i>Both have biblical proof of their beliefs.</i><br /><br />Except that the Bible is a Catholic book, and the Catholic Church wrote and canonized and protected and promulgated the New Testament, and is the only legitimate interpreter of it. So, there is no biblical "proof" of Protestant belief if those beliefs go against the Church. It's being misinterpreted. <br /><br /><i>What's a girl to do??</i><br /><br />Well, you say that the Church was founded by Christ. So, I guess a girl should come back if that's what she actually believes. <br /><br />Anyway, God's blessings!Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-83820365416760652972012-01-10T21:09:30.928-07:002012-01-10T21:09:30.928-07:00Nikki, if there's an accusation but no proof, ...Nikki, if there's an accusation but no proof, what would you have the Church do? It's generally not a good idea to punish someone based on accusations alone. That's not fair in any context. <br /><br />Besides, perhaps he was removed to a place where he wouldn't have contact with kids, just as a precaution. It seems unfair of you to make all these assumptions about the priest, the church, and the diocese with no facts to back them up, only based on hearsay and secondhand information.<br /><br />All I know is that if it were MY kid in this situation, I'd be on the phone with the cops so fast it'd set the cell tower on fire. And in the classes I'm required to take as a church volunteer (regardless if we work with kids), we're instructed to report any allegations or suspicious to Church AND civil authorities, immediately, no exceptions.JoAnna Wahlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09942928659520676271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-80547329853471635032012-01-10T21:02:34.314-07:002012-01-10T21:02:34.314-07:00I wasn't informed where he went. Or what happe...I wasn't informed where he went. Or what happened to him. I wasn't going to get the answers to those questions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-615520104446046252012-01-10T20:58:33.999-07:002012-01-10T20:58:33.999-07:00Please don't be pained by my struggle. I belie...Please don't be pained by my struggle. I believe it is hard to imagine for you. There is a purpose. My life is full and blessed in ways I could never imagine. Your experience isn't mine, we all have our journey. I am good daughter tO Christ. It is funny to me that the Catholics feel bad for me and Protestants are thrilled I have seen the light. Both convinced the are the only way to God. Both have biblical proof of their beliefs. What's a girl to do??<br /><br />To answer your question about the priest, He fondled young boys as they sat on his lap.that was the accusation. I was not informed of what happened. Honestly we left shortly after. I felt some sort of statement should have been made. The principal lost his job a few years later.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-43098542261291677742012-01-10T20:49:10.694-07:002012-01-10T20:49:10.694-07:00Nikki -
Regarding your earlier allegation that yo...Nikki -<br /><br />Regarding your earlier allegation that your sister-in-law lied in her statements to the tribunal... <br /><br />The tribunal functions very similarly to a court of law; each side presents evidence (usually written and oral testimony from relatives and friends).<br /><br />If your SIL presented false evidence to the tribunal, that was definitely a moral wrong on her part, but if your brother wasn't able to provide any evidence refuting her claims... how is the tribunal supposed to know she was lying, if it is his word against hers? I think you're placing blame unfairly in this regard, because you're expecting the tribunal members to have the ability to read your SIL's heart and mind. They can only make decisions based on the evidence presented, and if no one could refute your SIL's claims with evidence to the contrary, that's hardly the fault of the tribunal.<br /><br />I don't disagree that there are some tribunals that hand out declarations of nullity like candy, but on the other hand did you know that each annulment actually goes through TWO tribunals? It initially goes to the tribunal of the diocese in which the initial claimant lives, and once a decision has been reached, it's sent to a different diocese (one that doesn't border the original diocese) for further review. If the second diocesan tribunal finds fault with the decision, they can reject the it. Even if both tribunals come to the same decision, the claimant(s) can still appeal to the Roman Rota. <br /><br />The process is actually quite rigorous. Do abuses happen? Most undoubtedly, given that the tribunals are comprised of human beings. However, given the facts as you presented them, I think your expectations were a bit unreasonable.JoAnna Wahlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09942928659520676271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-38021539931477777172012-01-10T20:38:48.494-07:002012-01-10T20:38:48.494-07:00What was the priest accused of doing (what did the...What was the priest accused of doing (what did the parents say)? Hope you don't mind my asking. I'm just curious now, and wondering why he just "went away" or why the parents didn't call the cops. What was the abuse?<br /><br />I appreciate your time as well, and I am pained by your struggle. I hope you can find a way out of it and back to the Eucharist.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-57322938682788931012012-01-10T20:33:02.232-07:002012-01-10T20:33:02.232-07:00Ok, the annulment comment was a joke. I appreciate...Ok, the annulment comment was a joke. I appreciate your recognition of my struggle. And I will do some more reading. Thank you for your time. I do appreciate it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-82335657731211642872012-01-10T20:18:56.000-07:002012-01-10T20:18:56.000-07:00Well they never did tell me what happened to this ...Well they never did tell me what happened to this young man, they didn't like me asking. I knew the parents of the one young boy and I believed them. So abuse is what I would call it.<br />I appreciate your prayers and I will pray for you as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com