tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post916504751885655641..comments2024-03-09T00:51:33.602-07:00Comments on Little Catholic Bubble: The "hook-up" culture and a question for feministsLeila@LittleCatholicBubblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comBlogger101125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-28551379401766510262011-06-24T10:18:28.311-07:002011-06-24T10:18:28.311-07:00Ladies,
One thing that feminism didn't, or wo...Ladies, <br />One thing that feminism didn't, or wouldn't, take into account was that men and women view sex differently. If a young woman makes herself available, no strings attached, for sex, a young man will think, why buy the cow if the milk is free? And the young woman, who is is hoping for a relationship, loses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-89518982890828915762011-05-28T17:26:14.052-07:002011-05-28T17:26:14.052-07:00Feminism is going to turn around and bite the wome...Feminism is going to turn around and bite the women in their butt and haunt them for the rest of their living lives. <br />When we have a collapse on all fronts, who is going to come to the aid of these feminist bitchez?? <br />Answer is: NOBODY!<br />To the feminists I say: Be prepared to be bitten by a rattlesnake in the lonely desert and die a painful death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-31160692506338881212011-03-23T09:35:52.299-07:002011-03-23T09:35:52.299-07:00college student, if you are still reading, here is...college student, if you are still reading, here is an interesting article where a professor at Boston College asks the men at college to be the ones to help end the destructive "hook-up" culture:<br /><br />http://www.thebcobserver.com/2010/03/30/2184/Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-44686777762736668322011-02-28T12:32:26.182-07:002011-02-28T12:32:26.182-07:00http://www.slate.com/id/2286240/
Interesting arti...http://www.slate.com/id/2286240/<br /><br />Interesting article about how slacker, uncommitted "men" (really boys) have the upper hand sexually with women. Why? Because women let them. Sad.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-59162673427436905342011-02-24T19:28:47.911-07:002011-02-24T19:28:47.911-07:00L says:"that is what I am saying, "THERE...L says:"that is what I am saying, "THERE ARE NO NEW SINS." Just like Leila said. So why oh why are you blaming feminists for abortion when people have been aborting pregnancies since Day one? <br /><br />And forgive me - I know the church has always condemned abortion, but my point was to illustrate that abortion was around LONG before modern feminism. <br /><br />But I see you all desperately need a scapegoat."<br /><br />The irony here, L, is that you're swiping at the one thing that has always upheld women in the highest honor and regard - The Church. You think modern day feminists care about you personally? Now you're kidding yourself.<br /><br />Feminism doesn't care about women nowadays the way you're painting it. It now seeks to feminize men and tear down anything patriarchal. For the sake of power. Not for your personal sake, L.<br /><br />It's about wanting women to men, instead of feminine women. And the word "feminine" doesn't meant a weak wall flower. Quite the opposite, to be truly feminine means to embrace all the powers of womanhood, in our person alone. Our personhood, whether or not we make more at our careers than men.<br /><br />Please, there is so much at your disposal to read regarding the atrocities of "feminism", please at least read that side of it to gain a better understanding of just what their agenda is these days. Protecting you as a woman isn't tops on their list though they like to sell it to you that way. Power is their game. <br /><br />-NubbyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-6308493130932021642011-02-24T16:36:16.388-07:002011-02-24T16:36:16.388-07:00So why oh why are you blaming feminists for aborti...<i>So why oh why are you blaming feminists for abortion when people have been aborting pregnancies since Day one? </i><br /><br />It is true that abortion has been around since the beginning, but it is also true that modern feminists <i>advocate</i> for it, <i>fight</i> for it, <i>fundraise</i> for it, <i>march</i> for it, <i>legislate</i> for it, put it at the center of their agenda, and even call it a good, a blessing, something sacramental. <br /><br />So, no scapegoating, just stating the facts: Feminism today promotes abortion.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-67739607099942867362011-02-24T16:32:01.158-07:002011-02-24T16:32:01.158-07:00Nicole and JoAnna, really good points and question...Nicole and JoAnna, really good points and questions.<br /><br />L.?Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-54271865977335340882011-02-24T15:38:33.248-07:002011-02-24T15:38:33.248-07:00L., you said: "but it's hard to make a co...L., you said: "but it's hard to make a connection and come together to the table when most of you will not step out of the "feminism is evil" box for a second..."<br /><br />Yes, let's look at some of the comments that called feminism evil, like this one:<br /><br /><i>Nicole C: "feminism did some good things in the workplace..."</i><br /><br />Oh, wait. Maybe this one?<br /><br /><i>Sarah: "feminism started out with some great goals. And not just in the workforce. When STDs started to become widespread thanks to unfaithful married men, women rightfully began to speak out. Some groups advocated for more marital faithfulness (Hmmmm) and others went the other way and just decided men and marriage weren't worth a woman's time. It's the second group that ultimately dominated modern feminism, and it's so sad.<br /><br />I was raised by a feminist. She taught me a lot of great things, like how to question and think for myself. She saw a lot of genuine sexism against women even just a few decades ago that needed to be addressed. She even saw real sexism (not just misunderstood theology) in the Church."</i><br /><br />Hmm. Maybe not. How about:<br /><br /><i>Leila: "I couldn't agree more with all of you. The initial goal of feminism was GOOD!"</i><br /><br />Nope, not that one either. How about now?<br /><br /><i>Maggie: "the truly beautiful fruits of feminism incude equal pay, opportunities for career advancement, trying to put an end to sexist discrimination" and "You also make a good point that many things the feminist movement pushed- equal pay, higher education - were great goods. That is true."</i><br /><br />Huh. That's strange. I don't see anyone claiming that "feminism is evil." I just see people saying that while the initial goal of feminism, and some aspects of the feminist movement are very good, others are not.JoAnna Wahlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09942928659520676271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-81839248472546601952011-02-24T15:32:59.285-07:002011-02-24T15:32:59.285-07:00L,
We're not blaming feminism and all of its ...L,<br /><br />We're not blaming feminism and all of its facets. I’ll say it yet one more time: Many of us throughout this conversation have praised much of feminism’s accomplishments. Even Leila pointed to the organization “Feminists for Life” as a great cause. Please point out where anyone said “feminism is evil.” No one did. I see you’re construing our comments to your convenience.<br /><br />But you can't argue that today's modern feminist movement is liberal-leaning, and first and foremost all about the right to have an abortion. It's no longer about empowering strong women no matter their politics. If it was, why do feminist organizations consistently vilify strong, independent conservative women like Sarah Palin? <br /><br />Did you just roll your eyes at the mention of her name? Then you have proven my point.<br /><br />None of us here think that suddenly sometime around the mid-1960’s someone “invented” abortion. Just because it has been around since the dawn of time doesn’t mean it has always been culturally acceptable. The contraceptive mentality has made it so, however. And it has increased the rate of abortion exponentially. And the feminist movement was the catalyst for the legalization of the Pill.<br /><br />We don’t need a scapegoat. We believe abortion is wrong no matter what or who contributes to its prevalence. Even if no one or nothing contributed to its prevalence (it was just some random phenomenon), we’d be fighting it. We’re simply connecting the dots.Nicole Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115556585264141565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-84289994210983854332011-02-24T14:59:01.580-07:002011-02-24T14:59:01.580-07:00Stacy - true we know what we are, but you can than...Stacy - true we know what we are, but you can thank feminists who fought tooth & nail for the rights we take for granted so that we may think highly of ourselves.<br /><br />And Nicole C - that is what I am saying, "THERE ARE NO NEW SINS." Just like Leila said. So why oh why are you blaming feminists for abortion when people have been aborting pregnancies since Day one? <br /><br />And forgive me - I know the church has always condemned abortion, but my point was to illustrate that abortion was around LONG before modern feminism. <br /><br />But I see you all desperately need a scapegoat.<br /><br />The sad thing is, most of us agree on a lot of the middle grounds of this issue, but it's hard to make a connection and come together to the table when most of you will not step out of the "feminism is evil" box for a second. Feminism is about equality for women, not abortions for all. There are much deeper societal issues that cause the "hooking up" culture. As College student/girl said - Teens aren't using contraception - they're invincible. <br /><br />-L.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-39021299510272910742011-02-24T13:05:54.253-07:002011-02-24T13:05:54.253-07:00Just seconding what Nicole said about "ensoul...Just seconding what Nicole said about "ensoulment." People who use that argument don't know what it means. The belief was always that if there's a body, there's a soul. They just didn't know when there was a body before things like microscopes and ultrasounds. Now we know. Science showed us more. The Church always said "you shall not murder a child by abortion." Look up the Didache (The Doctrine of the Tweleve Apostles) from the first century.<br /><br />L, some of us don't need a feminist to tell us we aren't property. We know it ourselves.Stacy Trasancoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14638075878905614981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-73980935905569491712011-02-24T12:45:34.599-07:002011-02-24T12:45:34.599-07:00Oh, L. Don't fall into Nancy Pelosi's sem...Oh, L. Don't fall into Nancy Pelosi's semantics trap. Just as you said - that was history. We now have medical technology that tells us that a fetus is a living human being from the moment of conception and there is NO waffling from the Church on that. But, it's also important to note the very big difference between being "ensouled" and being "alive." Just because the Church couldn't agree on when the unborn child had a soul doesn't mean it ever waffled on when its life began. Either way it's moot now. Again - ancient history!<br /><br />You said, "there has always been rape, incest, domination and subjugation throughout history." As Leila has said numerous times in this comment thread, sin is sin and there are no new sins.<br /><br />"What about suffrage? Thank you feminists. NOt Being the PROPERTY (not partner) of one's husband? Thank you feminists. Being able to breastfeed in public? Thank you feminists."<br /><br />You must not have read the entire thread. Many of us have lauded much of what the early feminist movement has given us. Equality in the workplace, voting rights, etc. But somewhere along the way it turned into an all-out abortion-rights movement. Abortion is not pro-woman. And if you'd read what has been said time and time again here, neither is birth control.Nicole Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115556585264141565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-83193298487539033392011-02-24T12:44:48.472-07:002011-02-24T12:44:48.472-07:00L.,
"Being able to breastfeed in public? Tha...L.,<br /><br />"Being able to breastfeed in public? Thank you feminists."<br /><br />Um, what? There's still a huge stigma attached to breastfeeding in public, and some self-avowed feminists (e.g., Barbara Walters) <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/07/nyregion/07nurse.html" rel="nofollow">still say</a> it makes them "uncomfortable."<br /><br />We're still fighting the war on that one, unfortunately.<br /><br />As for the link between contraception and abortion, here are two more excellent resources in that regard. <br /><br />From John Paul II's encyclical "<a href="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_25031995_evangelium-vitae_en.html" rel="nofollow">Evangelium Vitae (The Gospel of Life)</a>":<br /><br />"[D]espite their differences of nature and moral gravity, contraception and abortion are often closely connected, as fruits of the same tree. It is true that in many cases contraception and even abortion are practiced under the pressure of real-life difficulties, which nonetheless can never exonerate from striving to observe God’s law fully. Still, in very many other instances such practices are rooted in a hedonistic mentality unwilling to accept responsibility in matters of sexuality, and they imply a self-centered concept of freedom, which regards procreation as an obstacle to personal fulfillment. The life which could result from a sexual encounter thus becomes an enemy to be avoided at all costs and abortion becomes the only possible decisive response to failed contraception" (no.13).<br /><br />Dr. Janet Smith's "<a href="http://onemoresoul.com/contraception/risks-consequences/the-connection-between-contraception-and-abortion.html" rel="nofollow">The connection between contraception and abortion</a>":<br /><br />"Contraception takes the baby-making element out of sexual intercourse. It makes pregnancy seem like an accident of sexual intercourse rather than the natural consequence that responsible individuals ought to be prepared for. Abortion, then, becomes thinkable as the solution to an unwanted pregnancy. Contraception enables those who are not prepared to care for babies to engage in sexual intercourse; when they become pregnant, they resent the unborn child for intruding itself upon their lives, and they turn to the solution of abortion. It should be no surprise that countries that are permeated by contraceptive sex, fight harder for access to abortion than they do to ensure that all babies can survive both in the womb and out. It is foolish for pro-lifers to think that they can avoid the issues of contraception and sexual irresponsibility and be successful in the fight against abortion. For, as the Supreme Court stated, abortion is “necessary” for those whose intimate relationships are based upon contraceptive sex."JoAnna Wahlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09942928659520676271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-67616183611863995542011-02-24T12:42:44.795-07:002011-02-24T12:42:44.795-07:00Major clarification:
One Man is not "L"...Major clarification:<br /><br />One Man is <i>not</i> "L" (anonymous)'s husband. He is the husband of Lauren, at Magnify the Lord with Me. <br /><br />Some people were scratching their head, so I needed to clear up the confusion. :)Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-70067598349724255182011-02-24T12:23:54.743-07:002011-02-24T12:23:54.743-07:00L., you may have just walked into a new blog post,...L., you may have just walked into a new blog post, starring you. Stay tuned....Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-75160977691142692562011-02-24T12:15:46.582-07:002011-02-24T12:15:46.582-07:00I agree with college student about sex since the b...I agree with college student about sex since the beginning of time and will one up that with "read up on human history." After all it was a long, long time ago that the Catholic Church itself was waffling on the sticky issue of "ensoulment" (for college student, this was the notion that a fetus did not have a soul until 40 days gestation for a male or 90 days for a female... because the church, like most folks at the time, did not see females as equal.) Some Popes denounced any abortion regardless and some said it was okay as long as they did it before ensoulment. <br /><br />There have always been drugs, teas, tinctures to induce abortions - even hundreds of years ago. It is WELL DOCUMENTED. Ever since men have had the upper-hand over women, there has always been rape, incest, domination and subjugation throughout history. But here, in modern times we have a voice to say "NO MORE."<br /><br />What about suffrage? Thank you feminists. NOt Being the PROPERTY (not partner) of one's husband? Thank you feminists. Being able to breastfeed in public? Thank you feminists.<br /><br />You may hate contraception and abortion and the using of sex as a cheap way to fill carnal and sinful desires (secular people don't like a lot of this lifestyle either) But stop with blaming feminism. Stay out of FoxNews type talking points. These are effects of the human condition, they don't exist because some women don't want to get pregnant and take a pill to keep from doing so. <br /><br />-L.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-49191911476361451692011-02-24T11:59:33.116-07:002011-02-24T11:59:33.116-07:00For those who missed it, this is the article that...For those who missed it, <a href="http://littlecatholicbubble.blogspot.com/2011/01/contraception-leads-to-abortion-come.html" rel="nofollow">this is the article </a> that College student is talking about. Even the liberals on the US Supreme Court agree that contraception is a mindset that <i>requires</i> abortion.<br /><br />The proof is in the pudding.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-23883144535751075002011-02-24T11:51:19.842-07:002011-02-24T11:51:19.842-07:00College student,
Yes, there has been sex outside ...College student,<br /><br />Yes, there has been sex outside of marriage since the beginning of time. Sin is sin and there are no new sins. However, the philosophy behind the sexual revolution and feminism, as well as the widespread acceptance and availability of contraception, has facilitated sin to the degree that hooking up and casual sex and abortion and adultery and STDs, etc., has exploded. <br /><br />Human nature is weak, and humans are drawn toward sin (concupiscence). People take the path of least resistance, and contraception combined with the philosophy of the secular left (which came out of the same mindset) has been like the flame that lit the powder keg of promiscuity and empty, broken people, superficial relationships based on mutual "using", lack of self-control and just about every other self-destructive thing you can imagine. And, 50 million dead unborn babies.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-41942003187843552622011-02-24T11:49:45.981-07:002011-02-24T11:49:45.981-07:00I take issue with the statement " birth contr...I take issue with the statement " birth control leads to abortion. 20 percent of abortions are by married women, does marriage lead to abortion, of course not that's absurd. Correlation does not equal causation I understand the mentality you write about and I read leilas post on the subject. It is interesting and makes sence to a degree. But because we lack data on how many abortions were prevented by some form of contraceptives and why the other 48 choose abortion.we cannot say contraception caused abortion. Abstinence if used used incorrectly can result in a pregnancy. Birth control is the same way. Many women don't take their pills consistently or use condoms together using both together properly could eradicate the idea of unwanted pregnancy and consequently abortion <br />I'm curious, do you think in a world where over 95 percent of people Catholics and other included that north control does not have a place? Do you think it has done anything positive for women? Do you think BC should be outlawed or just discouraged? How about the morning after pill?college studentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-4723611462793691862011-02-24T11:07:00.389-07:002011-02-24T11:07:00.389-07:00A few things,
I wasn't saying hooking up isn&...A few things,<br /><br />I wasn't saying hooking up isn't facilitated by the availability of contraceptives of course it is. I'm saying we shouldn't blame hooking up on those darn contraceptives because people have been having sex out side of marriage since the beginning of time. And. people hook up look at teen pregnancy rates without condoms frequently, so to say without contrasceptives there would be no hook up culture is not entirely true. Especially, when a lot a lot of the hook up culture includes oral sex and other things that do not merit contraceptivescollege studentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-84426140161305291172011-02-24T06:35:36.942-07:002011-02-24T06:35:36.942-07:00Oh, and let me add to the sex without consequences...Oh, and let me add to the sex without consequences part. Because it has led to women believing that sex has no consequences, you CANNOT argue that birth control doesn't lead to abortion. Again, it's the mentality. 54% of women who have abortions were ON birth control. So abortion was their back-up plan. More than 90% of women use abortion as a FORM of birth control. If women are having sex that they think is going to be consequence-free, but then suffer the consequence (getting pregnant), of COURSE abortion is the "natural" solution (I use the term "natural" VERY loosely here).Nicole Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115556585264141565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-42643669731106048512011-02-24T06:30:37.707-07:002011-02-24T06:30:37.707-07:00College Student, you use a lot of anecdotal eviden...College Student, you use a lot of anecdotal evidence in your arguments to prove that birth control does not lead to the hook-up culture. But it's much bigger and over-arching than that. Just because you know a few girls who hook up without contraception, doesn't mean it's unrelated.<br /><br />The relationship between contraception and hooking up is more of a mentality than a practice. I think that's what most of us have been trying to argue. Birth control, whether you or your friends are on it or not, has led to men's perception of women as being usable for their physical sexuality. And it has led women to believe they're more independent because now they can have sex without consequences - just like men!! Which, of course, neither is true.<br /><br />I think Maggie's comment about Humanae Vitae and how Pope Paul VI envisioned the consequences of a birth control culture illustrated just that. It has led to more marital infidelity, less respect for women, governmental control, and general moral decay. You can't argue that the hook-up culture is completely unrelated.Nicole Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09115556585264141565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-48983749250304399902011-02-24T03:35:46.487-07:002011-02-24T03:35:46.487-07:00L's husband chiming in. Wow! I'm just ge...L's husband chiming in. Wow! I'm just getting caught up.<br /><br />It's been alluded to in several previous comments, young men are looking for young women who are virtuous and confident in their identity (and, for men whose faith is central to us, women who are rock-solid grounded in their faith). If we are going to offer strength, we often times need to have that strength demanded, called out, and depended on. Because we are fallen, we are often not able to offer it instinctively as Christ did, many times because we didn't learn it from our fathers and watching how they should have loved our mothers. That is especially true in the 20-somethings, where our sinful nature, fed by the noxious culture around us, tells us the same thing that destructive feminism tells women: that it's all about me, and I can have what I want, without strings or consequences. We need to learn (or re-learn) how to be strong, virtuous men. Since the cultural norms that challenge young men to do that--to enter into a life-long journey of self-sacrificial love--have sadly been lost, it largely falls on young women to draw out that masculinity and point us, like Mary, to Jesus Christ, to fight every urge to "settle" for the standards of the hook-up culture, and instead challenge men to know that they are worth the wait and worth the fight. This is certainly not dismissing men's responsibility, only that we need your committed, feminine partnership to remake the culture.One Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02359492539226825134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-43405921434067975812011-02-23T23:59:27.043-07:002011-02-23T23:59:27.043-07:00This is a tough question to answer because, as I b...This is a tough question to answer because, as I become more and more detached from feminism, I´m starting to realize that I don´t know what´s true anymore. Are women happier now than before? well, ask a feminist and they will say "hell yeah, we aren´t treated as chattel slaves or adult children to be "protected" and "disciplined" by men, especially husbands, we can go to school, get jobs, travel, have babies or not have them, our lack of virginity doesn´t determine whether we have a "reputation" or not."<br /><br />But now as I disconnect from feminism, I am starting to wonder about how much of the "bad old days" were really bad, and how much of the "good new days" are really good? Were women treated like adult children or lesser humans, or is that mostly the perception of a few disenchanted angry early feminists who got control of the discourse and convinced everyone else of a disease that didn´t exist? <br /><br />Some of the older generation I know say yes, women have it better today, but a lot of younger people, myself included (though I´m not all that young anymore) am starting to see feminism as having sold us a bill of goods. Choice has become an idol to be worshiped, something naturally good that has expanded to the point where it has become a tyrannical god that can´t be contradicted, a Carthaginian god who demands tribute in the form of children´s blood. <br /><br />Being "chosen" doesn´t make a thing infallibly good...lots of people choose harmful behaviors such as smoking, drinking, reckless driving, promiscuity etc. And not being chosen, or being "forced" by circumstances doesn´t necessarily make a thing "bad". A lot of the most valuable experiences of my life were not chosen but things that came along that I had little to no say in. But feminists insist that Choice be the standard. Women need to have Choices. The Evil Judeo Christian patriarchy refused to give women Choices. So we must fight against it and reclaim our God-given right to Choose, even if it means choosing to kill our babies.<br /><br />Choice is a good thing, free will is a good thing, but like C.S. Lewis says the best things become the biggest demons when they are disconnected from God. Corruptio optimi, pessimi. No, I don´t know if women are happier now. I don´t know if they were happier then. I just know a lot of us are unhappy now.Barbarahttp://intimategeography.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-74466283552271594522011-02-23T23:53:12.335-07:002011-02-23T23:53:12.335-07:00college student, this confuses me.
Aren't th...college student, this confuses me. <br /><br />Aren't the kids in a hook-up culture sort of going between hook-ups and then relationships for a while, then back to hook-ups? But to me, that's all part of the hook-up culture, but with the occasional relationship thrown in.<br /><br />Also, you say that the girls in high school were having "casual sex with multiple partners" (which is kind of like "hooking-up", right?). And that they didn't use birth control, and were not careful. They also were well-educated and affluent, but wouldn't go get birth control (which is another point I've made before, to the sex ed lady and others -- just because teens are "educated" doesn't mean they are going to use contraception all the time.)<br /><br />So, the high school girls who were having casual sex with multiple partners <i>weren't</i> careful, but the college girls having casual sex with multiple partners <i>are</i> careful?<br /><br />I'm not trying to be dense, I really just don't understand.<br /><br />It does seem to be one great big giant mess, though, with many casualties, including broken hearts, diseased bodies, and aborted babies. <br /><br />Maybe this whole "wait till you are married" thing should come back in fashion.... ;)Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.com