tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post8223372218469602039..comments2024-03-21T04:02:46.799-07:00Comments on Little Catholic Bubble: Not your average "pro-choicers"Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comBlogger119125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-65230491567129325492011-08-12T07:26:42.658-07:002011-08-12T07:26:42.658-07:002) You feeling "sad" for these people an...<i>2) You feeling "sad" for these people and feeling the need to "pray for their souls" could be considered a form of bigotry. You obviously can't handle anyone who openly doesn't believe in God or any form of organized religion. It's disguised as just being "what you believe in" and America's Freedom of Religion (or lack thereof, don't forget) protects you from anyone putting you down for it, but the fact that you believe in God and you feel sorry for those that don't, is your passive-aggressive way of putting them down for NOT believing in God. </i><br /><br />Freethinker, I'm going to guess that you are either a high school or college student. Am I correct?<br /><br />Having religious convictions and praying for people's souls is now considered "bigotry"? Interesting. And if I "can't handle" people believing differently than myself, why do I have this blog open to anonymous comments? Are you okay with people thinking differently than you? If so, why do you call me a bigot? <br /><br />The idea that the number of cells or level of complexity make us human, or more important than another organism is interesting to me. If a toddler is less complex than a twenty-year-old, is the toddler less human than the twenty-year-old? If a giant gorilla is more complex than a newborn baby, should the newborn baby be less protected under the law than the gorilla?<br /><br />Also, what do you have against adoption?<br /><br />So many questions for you, but this is a start.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-31771505453892035882011-08-12T07:18:30.237-07:002011-08-12T07:18:30.237-07:00PS: These may answer a few more of your points:
h...PS: These may answer a few more of your points:<br /><br />http://littlecatholicbubble.blogspot.com/2010/07/responding-to-christa.html<br /><br />http://littlecatholicbubble.blogspot.com/2011/06/sliding-scale-of-personhood-license-to.html<br /><br />By the way, leftist "ethicist" Peter Singer of Princeton is consistent. He knows there's no logical reason to say that an unborn child is worthy of death, but that a born child isn't. His philosophy allows for the killing of a child for months after her birth, as well. What do you think of that philosophy?Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-58027581284558887072011-08-12T07:13:33.290-07:002011-08-12T07:13:33.290-07:00E and freethinker, that is interesting, because in...E and freethinker, that is interesting, because in my understanding, atheists do not believe that born babies have souls either, or adults. So, should those soulless folks be allowed to be killed too, if they are inconvenient and unwanted? What makes "birth" the line in the sand for you? Or any other point of development in the womb? How are those lines anything but arbitrary?<br /><br />Also, what do you make of the fact that there are pro-life atheists and pro-life secularists? Perhaps protection of unborn humans is a human rights issue, not a religious one. :)<br /><br />After all, you don't see "Atheists for the Trinity" (which would be a religious issue).<br /><br />Thoughts?Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-8528009729762676612011-08-12T02:22:29.578-07:002011-08-12T02:22:29.578-07:00I personally don't appreciate the fact that th...I personally don't appreciate the fact that the Separation of Church and State is being ignored throughout this whole movement. The fact of the matter is, the religious believe the soul is created at the time of contraception and that its God's will that the baby be born, ect... but what about the Atheists? What reasons can you give them to be pro-life? They will not listen to the idea that it's "God's Word" because they do not believe in God so what reason do they have to not terminate an unplanned pregnancy? As mentioned above, at the time your allowed to have an abortion, there is no baby; there is not even a fetus yet but just a few cells. If one does not believe in a soul, why should one not be okay with ridding the body of a small collection of growing cells not so different from, say, a cancerous body of cells? The point is, if we're going to get our government involved, we need to keep religion out of it, no matter how much it contributes to your beliefs in your own lives, because such beliefs do not apply to everyone and we need to respect that just as much as we're expected to respect religious beliefs under our constitution.<br /><br />EAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-80413463910126861872011-08-12T01:56:27.389-07:002011-08-12T01:56:27.389-07:00^ and to add to what I just wrote, I would just li...^ and to add to what I just wrote, I would just like to say thank you to Miss G because I agree with EVERYTHING you said.<br /><br />--Anonymous Free ThinkerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-79324678858349190942011-08-12T01:41:03.166-07:002011-08-12T01:41:03.166-07:001&3) I don't see why, just because they...1&3) I don't see why, just because they've painted their faces and dressed up for a big rally, that makes them homosexual. On Halloween we don't question when strait men and women dress up so at a rally where they're trying to grab peoples attention, why not dress up then too? Like you said, it provide shock value and makes people stop and take a look.<br /><br />2) You feeling "sad" for these people and feeling the need to "pray for their souls" could be considered a form of bigotry. You obviously can't handle anyone who openly doesn't believe in God or any form of organized religion. It's disguised as just being "what you believe in" and America's Freedom of Religion (or lack thereof, don't forget) protects you from anyone putting you down for it, but the fact that you believe in God and you feel sorry for those that don't, is your passive-aggressive way of putting them down for NOT believing in God. <br /><br />I personally don't believe the two options should be only "Pro-Choice" or "Pro-Life" because I don't think its an either/or situation. Of course I'm pro there being life but I'm also pro it not being a government issue because whether its legal or not, its still the mothers choice whether she wants to keep the baby or not. Only, if it's illegal, she might go to some lengths to get an illegal abortion which could put both her's and the baby's life at risk. The reason its a religious issue is because you believe in souls and others do not. You believe the soul develops at the moment of conception; others do not. During the timeslot of which you can even get an abortion, the "baby" is nothing more than about 150 cells (to break it down for you, there are 15,000 cells in a flies brain). This is not a baby. It is a fractionally sized cluster of cells that need not turn into another poor child left abandoned, undernourished or thrown into the system, unloved and uncared for. I for one would rather not bring a child into this world if it can't be supported and I don't think it should be anyone else's business except the woman's who's decision it is to make.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-29323283323598505752011-02-07T08:39:25.507-07:002011-02-07T08:39:25.507-07:00Interesting conversation, ladies. It will also be...Interesting conversation, ladies. It will also be interesting to watch and see what happens in Egypt over the next couple of years. If the Muslim Brotherhood takes over, will Sharia Law be set in place? And since most estimates are that we too, in the US will be an outnumbered Muslim country in 20 years, could we be facing a similar outcome? Muslims families are having on average 8 children to our 1. We are too busy with materialism to care...so we abort our unwanted inconvenience of a child and rely on our constitution to save us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-82210209866978738792011-02-04T20:22:05.860-07:002011-02-04T20:22:05.860-07:00Hi Leila, Thank you, I have read Demri's blog....Hi Leila, Thank you, I have read Demri's blog. I would very much like to communicate with her. She is in my prayers!<br /><br />God bless and Mary keep all of your readers.<br /><br />Mrs.JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-27132834050585940482011-02-04T18:52:00.524-07:002011-02-04T18:52:00.524-07:00Mrs. J,
Thank you!! You have a lot to offer othe...Mrs. J, <br /><br />Thank you!! You have a lot to offer others who are in the struggle right now. I hope you will consider going to Demrie's new blog, as she is just beginning her journey out of the lesbian lifestyle and into the Church:<br /><br />http://ddhartjourney.blogspot.com/<br /><br />You and she give me such hope! Blessings!Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-67523712975751802872011-02-04T18:41:21.687-07:002011-02-04T18:41:21.687-07:00Sighs, my entire first part didn't post, and i...Sighs, my entire first part didn't post, and is lost. How frustrating.... suffice it to say simply that it was explaining how I experienced the lesbian lifestyle, and my reversion back home to the CC.<br />How disappointing, oh well.<br />Mrs. JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-27260804483148874852011-02-04T18:38:48.095-07:002011-02-04T18:38:48.095-07:00There are lots of details, lots of years I won'...There are lots of details, lots of years I won't go into, but our God is an Awesome God, a Merciful God! Though His means of bringing me back to Him have not been pleasant, they are all welcomed. I am married now, to a devout Catholic man, and couldn't be happier.<br />I often wonder if the reason my life went so far off track from what I always dreamed it to be, is because now I have a deeper understanding of things I might not have before.<br />I think there was always a gnawing reality in the back of my soul that the life I was living was not capable of giving me what I truly desired. To live for my God, to know Him, Love Him, and serve Him in this world, so I could be with Him forever in the next.<br />I have been to deaths door, I know well what it feels like to realize that at any moment I will meet Him, my Lord, my God, and what would I say? How could I defend my life?<br />I left that lifestyle because the truth was impossible to ignore. There were meetings to talk about how to get a character or two onto soap opera's, how to get our lifestyle more acceptable. I was in agreement, it was hard being in the closet. But it wasn't the closet that bothered me. It was truth. God did not create me to get a sperm donor, or to have to choose between being in His Grace, and living an active lifestyle contrary to His design. Truth is that babies are created in the womb of their mom's as creations of God! If everything I wanted was out of my reach in this lifestyle, there was a reason, and the reason was, it wasn't approved by God.<br />Today when I speak with woman in relationships, who want to live their Catholic faith, I remind them the Church doesn't require they not love each other, but that we are ALL, called to be celebate outside of a Sacramental Marriage. I share that once I came back home to Him, I found myself.<br /><br />I pray for the anger felt by so many, and I do believe that the father of lies is actively fueling the anger. Satan is in his glory with what is happening now.<br /><br />Mrs. JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-25989386413458901752011-02-03T14:06:36.092-07:002011-02-03T14:06:36.092-07:00I know the young lady who wrote this. I have known...I know the young lady who wrote this. I have known her since she was a little girl. She is a year older than my oldest daughter. She went on the March For Life West Coast, and she gives her experience of the offensive protesters, and pictures of them as well. So very sad. As she says, these people must be very, very unhappy and lost. <br /><br />http://catholicphoenix.com/2011/02/03/the-walk-for-life-an-opportunity-for-martyrdom/<br /><br />Lord, save the lost.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-76270793936177930212011-01-31T23:47:56.833-07:002011-01-31T23:47:56.833-07:00Miss Gwen, if you don't think there is pressur...Miss Gwen, if you don't think there is pressure to abort, please read:<br /><br />http://www.theunchoice.com/coerced.htm<br /><br />Give it a fair hearing?Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-88170991842298249492011-01-31T11:56:45.548-07:002011-01-31T11:56:45.548-07:00Miss G, do you approve of these public displays? I...Miss G, do you approve of these public displays? I think we know that Cordelia wasn't simply talking about fun, outlandish Halloween costumes:<br /><br />"nudity, public displays of bedroom acts, pagan like orgies on stage in front of an audience."<br /><br />I think you pretty much know exactly what we are talking about. So, where do you stand on all that?Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-35795777203788953302011-01-31T11:38:15.082-07:002011-01-31T11:38:15.082-07:00I didn't realize this conversation was still g...I didn't realize this conversation was still going on. I can understand the offensiveness of (some) of the signs above, the gestures and "plays" performed in protest. <br /><br />But in the context of Halloween and a giant public street party, I see nothing wrong with outlandish, bizarre, artistic costumes. Nor do I see an obvious connection between cross dressing/outlandish costuming/paganism and holes in bar restrooms. I've been to some gay bars (surprise surprise) and I've had great times and never had a problem with holes in the restroom door/walls. Regarding restrooms in gay bars, the "problem" has been too many people waiting to use the women's restroom because many Queens prefer not to use the men's room and don't identify as men anyways! LOL <br /><br />-miss gAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-72845892788431110342011-01-31T11:04:34.843-07:002011-01-31T11:04:34.843-07:00Cordelia, I am glad you clarified, and I almost cl...Cordelia, I am glad you clarified, and I almost clarified that myself, since I knew what you meant. I hope that Miss G is still reading this and can acknowledge that there is twistedness in what you describe. After all, she did say that she does not agree with the lewdness and mockery of the protestors in the photos above.<br /><br />Miss Gwen?Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-91958775772360265322011-01-31T10:57:23.893-07:002011-01-31T10:57:23.893-07:00Miss g thought that I was equating the twisted gay...Miss g thought that I was equating the twisted gay culture in SF with same sex attraction. I was not. <br /><br />I had homosexual acquaintances in SF. I was surrounded by homosexuals at work and in school. They weren't the ones acting like mythological gods or subhuman creatures on stages at Halloween. (If you've ever been in SF on Halloween and you saw what I've seen you would feel like you were in hell.) <br /><br />So, that's the kind of twistedness I was refering to--nudity, public displays of bedroom acts, pagan like orgies on stage in front of an audience. This is the kind of sickness that thinks of ideas such as holes in the walls in bars for anonymous intercourse (Unfortunately, I can verify this--I'm not gay but there is in fact a wierd mixing of straights and gays at gay bars in SF that goes on--perhaps fueled by curiosity to see what actually this scene is like.)Cordelia at Catholic Phoenixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04781343757689670170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-40328019193006832522011-01-31T09:04:13.272-07:002011-01-31T09:04:13.272-07:00[Of course the sole purpose of this blog is to gra...[Of course the sole purpose of this blog is to gratify Leila's colossal vanity so it doesn't really matter what preposterous twaddle she spews forth.]<br /><br />LOL, I thought that was the purpose of all blogs. Ariana Huffington and P.Z. Meyers are practically worshipped as gods on their respective blogs!<br /><br />You seem awfully worked up over something that "doesn't matter," Anon. Seems it matters to you... a lot. :)JoAnna Wahlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09942928659520676271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-42254619090619816572011-01-31T08:00:17.872-07:002011-01-31T08:00:17.872-07:00Dear Anon,
Just for a moment, let's take your ...Dear Anon,<br />Just for a moment, let's take your premise- that Leila's blog is simply a public outlet for her inflated ego. It seems silly to point this out, but for every hostile anti-Christian anonymous comment, Leila's hit count probably doubles, and a dozen comments get added as well. <br /><br />So for someone who hates Leila so much, you sure do a great job of generating traffic to her site! <br /><br />A thank you from all of us who hope the truth Leila writes can reach a broader audience.Monicanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-85888557433550092702011-01-31T07:38:02.908-07:002011-01-31T07:38:02.908-07:00Anonymous, if you are Sam/Paul, I would appreciate...Anonymous, if you are Sam/Paul, I would appreciate it if you kept your word and stopped commenting. You said you would stop the harassment, and that I could allow anonymous commenters without the worry that you would keep coming in with discourteous comments like this. You also said you would stop reading my blog.<br /><br />Please be a man of your word. <br /><br />I wish you nothing but peace.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-68044962305490606132011-01-31T06:43:24.532-07:002011-01-31T06:43:24.532-07:00Dear anonymous, you seem to be a very bitter perso...Dear anonymous, you seem to be a very bitter person. I am sorry about that. <br /><br />When I said I do not desire to have them censored, that means I do not desire the government to censor their speech or right to assemble/protest. I certainly do not have to have obscene words displayed on my blog. That is my right. However, I gave them plenty of exposure that others, including the media, would not. So they need not feel cheated. <br /><br />Understand the distinction?<br /><br />Blessings to you!<br /><br />(And please give yourself a name if you are going to comment here. Than you.)Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-85051201420618793702011-01-30T23:23:49.143-07:002011-01-30T23:23:49.143-07:00Leila @ January 29, 2011 2:49 PM says
"...I...Leila @ January 29, 2011 2:49 PM says <br /><br />"...I have no desire to have them censored..."<br /><br />The attentive reader notes that Leila did, by her own admission and in fact, censor the photographs.<br /><br />I would prefer to report the bare facts and allow everyone to draw his own conclusions, but I'll quote Leila again for lagniappe (this one's found on the front page of the blog) <br /><br />"I love clarity. I love logic. I love Truth."<br /><br />Whoever said that irony is dead was mistaken, and anyone capable of perpetrating this sort of disconnect lacks the requisite equipment for rational discourse.<br /><br />Of course the sole purpose of this blog is to gratify Leila's colossal vanity so it doesn't really matter what preposterous twaddle she spews forth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-72850523302249773752011-01-30T12:50:41.861-07:002011-01-30T12:50:41.861-07:00Miss G,
Thanks for pointing out the unfairness in...Miss G,<br /><br />Thanks for pointing out the unfairness in my post. You're right, I wouldn't like it if someone did that.<br /><br />I notice that you didn't answer the question, though.J. Preverhttp://www.catholicphoenix.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-59805434531196629582011-01-30T03:00:12.262-07:002011-01-30T03:00:12.262-07:00Miss G,
To add to Leila's point about the pres...Miss G,<br />To add to Leila's point about the pressure to abort, I just need to mention that this pressure can be tremendous without ever hearing the words, "You should abort" or "you should consider your options." For example, a young woman in college is pounded with the message that a child will stop her from achieving her goals. A woman who is unmarried is repeatedly accosted with the reminder that single parenting is hard. A financially unstable woman is pushed into believing that a child will push her into destitute poverty and that the best thing for that child is not to be born. A woman with a young child is pressured into believing that she will not be able to attend to another baby properly. The list goes on. The most effective pressures to abort are the ones that feed upon our desperation. They are the pressures that avoid overtly mentioning abortion while simultaneously presenting it as the most desirable option.M Hastingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01872540057700439944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-23018454604809621502011-01-29T19:33:09.371-07:002011-01-29T19:33:09.371-07:00Miss G, the pressure to abort is all around women ...Miss G, the pressure to abort is all around women in crisis. Heck, I know a bunch of friends who have had their OBs pressure them to abort if there was the slightest hint of a problem in a pregnancy. So, while some do say "You must abort" (including one OB who told my friend to abort because she -- the mom-- has lupus; the healthy girl is now my godchild), others don't say it in the same way, but they do imply or even state: "You <i>should</i> abort." Do you really think there is not pressure on scared, desperate women to abort?<br /><br />And I must agree with Nubby: You can't let one person's words sway you away from a discussion. Not if you are seeking truth. My goodness, we all say and take things the wrong way. I will tell you that a couple of words would not be all it takes for me to swear off your philosophy, but the video I linked to on my latest post would. I wish you would watch it, just four minutes, and tell me if you think what you see is <i>right</i> and <i>good</i>. It is painful, yes, but please, we must face the truth of what we allow and condone. Please.<br /><br />Also, my next post is answering your question from earlier, about separating the person from the acts. Thanks!Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.com