tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post6234540198096779842..comments2024-03-21T04:02:46.799-07:00Comments on Little Catholic Bubble: Quick Takes, on time!Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comBlogger98125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-50842034757930090652013-12-11T23:26:43.035-07:002013-12-11T23:26:43.035-07:00You have heard vile sexual crudeness? That's a...You have heard vile sexual crudeness? That's all I see there. If you see it here, let me know. I must have my head in the sand. Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-1842034478388305202013-12-11T23:06:37.485-07:002013-12-11T23:06:37.485-07:00There may be a lack of class there, but honestly, ...There may be a lack of class there, but honestly, I have heard similar things from a few people on this blog, and worse from Francis.Johannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07861467738117604139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-40084871689189264802013-12-11T21:01:48.251-07:002013-12-11T21:01:48.251-07:00http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2013/12/headlines-of-...http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2013/12/headlines-of-day.html#disqus_thread<br /><br />"spokesdouche", "teabagistan"? Classy blogger. And read the comments that follow. It's pretty 1) juvenile 2) crass 3) hateful<br /><br />I cannot really imagine why any respectable group would call this an "outstanding" blog. But people seem to take great glee in whatever emotions are spilling out over there. Yuck.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-46451355058457807082013-12-11T18:53:16.274-07:002013-12-11T18:53:16.274-07:00OF joe'sOF joe'sJohannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07861467738117604139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-48463073973523838202013-12-11T18:52:47.678-07:002013-12-11T18:52:47.678-07:00Leila
Sorry, I've been offline a few days. I h...Leila<br />Sorry, I've been offline a few days. I had never heard of this blog before your post, so I'm not sure what my opinion of it is.<br /><br />What tactics if Joe's do you object to?Johannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07861467738117604139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-10043785561673332512013-12-10T09:10:41.946-07:002013-12-10T09:10:41.946-07:00It implies that an award-winng gay blogger condone...<i>It implies that an award-winng gay blogger condones castrating and murdering Christians. This is not true. There were a handful of commenterson the blog who said those things. And there are wingnuts in every crowd. <br /><br />JMG is a popular blog that elicits about 1000 comments a week. The writer can't read every comment and depends on his other readers to notify him of inappropriate content (which apparently wasn't done in time in this case.)</i><br /><br />Johanne, I'm just curious, because you are a level-headed person. What do you think of this man who runs the blog (called "Joe.My.God" for those, like me, who had never heard of it)? I checked it out. Do you think this blog deserves accolades and awards? Is it truly "outstanding"? I found it quite disturbing. <br /><br />Maybe I am more attuned to bully tactics today, as I have recently been the target of a homosexual activist (hiding behind a screen name) who has deliberately (via cutting and pasting, and outright lying) slimed me on his blog (which no one reads, and that's the only reason I am not exposing him … I don't want to give him any traffic). It truly is shocking. I expect people to be decent, even though I should know better. <br /><br />This Joe blogger guy sounds like a virulent anti-Christian (and, oh my, I have read more from his readers; they are scary and they admit that they mean to be), so I am just wondering if you think he should be lauded as an "outstanding" blogger. <br /><br />I am certain that there are many homosexuals who are opposed to people and tactics like Joe and his readers, but my suspicion is that they are just as afraid of being targets of serious bullying and threats as the rest of the general population is, so they remain silent. It's really so sad to me. Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-1286002630115422672013-12-09T08:31:52.948-07:002013-12-09T08:31:52.948-07:00Sorry, Leila.
You do realize that the particular...Sorry, Leila. <br /><br />You do realize that the particular situation described by Kat was separate from what we were discussing in general and I expect that just about everyone on this thread is probably appalled that the man's family disowned him. I just was over the top, as Chris would say, with my reaction. I know that no one on your blog would do what they did and what the Church says about treating homosexuals with love and respect. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976342950011924171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-9887326969976411362013-12-09T08:16:14.713-07:002013-12-09T08:16:14.713-07:00Chris,
Please read Kat's story and particular...Chris,<br /><br />Please read Kat's story and particularly this paragraph:<br /><br /><i>His Christian family disowned him. He's so hurt. He never gave me a chance to tell him I see him as more than his sexuality and I don't care that he's gay. He's a wonderful man, very kind and thoughtful.</i><br /><br />Then read your comment:<br /><br /><i>It's totally normal and common these days for someone to have an "over the top" reaction calling for death, castration, forced silence etc. when defending the holy sacrament of Sex.</i><br /><br />I told you what caused me to suggest what a just God would do and I apologized. Your sarcastic acceptance of that apology just demonstrates the insensitivity that gays encounter from Catholics. I've been made aware of how insulting I have been and will stop. But I just needed to respond to that remark. I don't want to get in any more pissing contests so I will stop (again). Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976342950011924171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-6335230576256320972013-12-09T08:11:16.618-07:002013-12-09T08:11:16.618-07:00Bill, thank, and you need to keep something in min...Bill, thank, and you need to keep something in mind: There are faithful Catholic readers and even regular commenters on this blog who have children who have come out as "gay" and left the Church, etc. None of them have disowned their children. They love their children dearly, even as they will never condone (any) sin. <br /><br />The Church does not condone "disowning" sinful children. It's like you make up straw men. You surely know what the Church teaches about loving and respecting those with homosexual attraction and treating them with dignity, and yet you still put up this false narrative. That is part of what is so frustrating about your contributions here.<br /><br />Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-84742067027489083992013-12-09T07:36:21.843-07:002013-12-09T07:36:21.843-07:00It's Ok Bill. It's totally normal and com...It's Ok Bill. It's totally normal and common these days for someone to have an "over the top" reaction calling for death, castration, forced silence etc. when defending the holy sacrament of Sex.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15188319685568262029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-40331109516765888532013-12-09T04:09:36.477-07:002013-12-09T04:09:36.477-07:00Leila,
Please accept my appologies. I have a gay ...Leila,<br /><br />Please accept my appologies. I have a gay son and when Kat told the story of the young man being disowned by his family because he told them he was gay, that just struck a nerve. <br /><br />What I should have said is that such a rejection should be considered to be a sin in itself, but you won't see it that way so there is no sense in discussing it further. Suggesting what a just God should do was just my way of saying how awful an act that was. <br /><br />You reminded me of Harrison Ford in Air Force One "Get off my plane". Sorry. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976342950011924171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-51653877071724808472013-12-08T14:35:48.864-07:002013-12-08T14:35:48.864-07:00"A just God would kill that family in a car a..."A just God would kill that family in a car accident or a house fire."<br /><br />About fifteen years ago, I was all about wanting "justice" for enemies of the Church. I asked a holy Opus Dei priest if it was okay to pray for justice for others. He said that was fine, as long as I knew that I would be getting that same justice for myself. I began to pray for mercy at that point, for myself and others.<br /><br />It's quite something to say what a "just God" would do. Jesus said we would be measured by the same measuring stick that we use on others. We should all be very careful judging individuals and declaring what fate should overcome them. <br /><br />Those vile and demonic women on that video? I wish for them great mercy, and that they would be in Heaven someday, my sisters in Christ. That is God's wish for them, too. Repentance, contrition, virtue, goodness, love. To wish evil or death on others is a sick, sick thing.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-75647410929171897052013-12-08T14:14:48.263-07:002013-12-08T14:14:48.263-07:00Bill, get off my blog.Bill, get off my blog.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-39790498813498857952013-12-08T14:14:13.621-07:002013-12-08T14:14:13.621-07:00But thanks to all the wonderful Catholic commenter...But thanks to all the wonderful Catholic commenters who have tried valiantly, patiently to make a case to Bill. You guys rock (the comments are so much smarter and better and more thoughtful than mine!), and that's what makes this blog worth it! Keep it up, I appreciate you!Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-80078829440856577002013-12-08T14:12:29.459-07:002013-12-08T14:12:29.459-07:00His Christian family disowned him. He's so hur...<i>His Christian family disowned him. He's so hurt.</i><br /><br />A just God would kill that family in a car accident or a house fire. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976342950011924171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-73750861091960801522013-12-08T14:11:05.819-07:002013-12-08T14:11:05.819-07:00Bill, offensive and obnoxious and (frankly) ludicr...Bill, offensive and obnoxious and (frankly) ludicrous comments such as the one you posted at 1:06 are why I think I am going to go back to ignoring you. You are bored, and I don't want to play your silly little game. If you were my child (you are acting about their ages), I would put you in time out.<br /><br />Godspeed.<br />Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-22133236629093690552013-12-08T14:08:23.464-07:002013-12-08T14:08:23.464-07:00There is so much antagonism between groups of oppo...<i>There is so much antagonism between groups of opposing views, let's not fuel the already raging fires.</i><br /><br />Johanne, agreed on that part. I will challenge you a bit on the rest. I have at times come very close (if not exceeded, I don't count) 1,000 comments a week on this blog. I read every one. Nothing like that would stand on my blog. Also, remember that those commenters likely <i>agree with and admire</i> the blog in question, unlike someone like Capezio, who is not a fan of what I write and from what I have seen is hostile to this blog and to to the Catholic Church's teachings. <br /><br />As for Jill Stanek, a commenter there (or here) saying that contraception is good is not going to be cause for banishment or horror (heck, people say it here constantly), unlike what was written in the comments of the blog I mentioned. It's not a difference in degree, but kind. <br /><br />But thank you for being horrified by those women. It is frightening, and it is demonic, truly. And more and more people are lining up with them. I'd love to hear anything in the mainstream media or on the liberal blogs. After all, if those had been gay men and the women had been Catholics assaulting them and molesting them, do you think the crickets would be chirping? Or would it be the big HuffPop headline, and MSNBC, etc? We both know the answer. It's sad.<br /><br />Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-25820201989001217532013-12-08T13:42:55.398-07:002013-12-08T13:42:55.398-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05155500364598716746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-12336731675635661842013-12-08T13:33:29.897-07:002013-12-08T13:33:29.897-07:00Bill, at what point should we stop imposing our vi...Bill, at what point should we stop imposing our views on others? Should we just do away with all laws then? Say the speed limit is 40, but I'm feelin the need for speed, is it okay for me to go 70? Those darn cops imposing the speed limit on me! Why can't they just get along with me for wanting to drive 70? <br /><br />We can't just get along because there are always two sides to every situation. Eventually, someone will have to give in. Either I'll have to get along with the speed limit or the cops will have to get along with people driving at their desired speed.<br /><br />Ultimately, it all comes down to ordering life towards true, authentic love. Now, I realize that the dangers and necessities of speed limits are more obvious than those of sexual morality. But, Bill, please, I beg you, take a step back, and just THINK through the Catholic Church's reasoning for opposing same sex marriage, abortion, contraception, etc. Please just consider that it really really is about real love, not necessarily affectionate "feel good" love, but true love that lasts forever. <br /><br />Again, all of us here LOVE THE PERSON JESUS CHRIST! We love Him and refuse to deny Him or any of what He taught. We trust the apostles, the early Church fathers, oral tradition, Sacred Scripture, most of all, Jesus Christ. So please QUIT asking us to deny Christ, it will never ever happen! Margohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09456678968658724716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-3722165722106487172013-12-08T13:19:21.107-07:002013-12-08T13:19:21.107-07:00"If that makes Catholics feel "persecute...<i>"If that makes Catholics feel "persecuted" that's just too bad. "</i><br /><br />Inversely proportional:<br />If Catholicism makes you feel "oppressed", that's just too bad.<br />Nubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15972118374098863290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-31502379959136818702013-12-08T13:14:00.534-07:002013-12-08T13:14:00.534-07:00Yes Bill, just like the jews dying in concentratio...Yes Bill, just like the jews dying in concentration camps were none of anyone's business. Just like people owning slaves was (and is still) no-one else's business. <br /><br />You *do* see that you're being completely intolerant towards Catholics right? You are absolutely not setting aside your own beliefs so that we can 'get along'. Which leads to the assumption that you only want people to 'get along' insofar as their world view aligns with *yours*, at which point you stop being 'tolerant' and you are imposing your own viewpoint on Catholics. <br /><br />Can you literally not see the hypocrisy in all of your posts?!<br /><br />Emily Milnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00933015372213757340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-29487232381696151122013-12-08T13:06:21.224-07:002013-12-08T13:06:21.224-07:00Hi Leila
First of all I need to say that I am app...Hi Leila<br /><br />First of all I need to say that I am appalled at the behavior of the women in the video you cited.<br /><br />However, I need to comment on this:<br /><br />"this is no obscure blog, it's seen as "outstanding". "<br /><br />because it's very misleading. It implies that an award-winng gay blogger condones castrating and murdering Christians. This is not true. There were a handful of <i>commenters</i>on the blog who said those things. And there are wingnuts in every crowd. <br /><br />JMG is a popular blog that elicits about 1000 comments a week. The writer can't read every comment and depends on his other readers to notify him of inappropriate content (which apparently wasn't done in time in this case.)<br /><br />What if someone wrote an article titled "POPULAR CATHOLIC BLOG DEFENDS VIOLENT PRO-CHOICE DEMONSTRATION" because Capezio (who actually <i>is</i> a regular commenter) made the comment above? It was her comment and doesn't represent your views just because it's your blog.<br /><br />Quite a while back I used to hang out on Jill Stanek's blog and a very regular commenter suggested repeatedly that every female of childbearing age should take oral contraceptives at all times so that if she were raped she wouldn't want to get an abortion. But I don't think it would be fair to write an ariticle saying "POPULAR PRO-LIFE BLOG ADVOCATES PUTTING ALL GIRLS ON BIRTHDAY CONTROL, REGARDLESS OF MEDICAL CONTRAINDICATIONS."<br /><br />It was a commenter, not Jill Stanek, who said that. And unlike you, Jill did not comment herself on the blog, she just let the comments stand.<br /><br />There is <i>so</i> much antagonism between groups of opposing views, let's not fuel the already raging fires.<br /><br />Johannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07861467738117604139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-65465128285286486022013-12-08T13:06:20.816-07:002013-12-08T13:06:20.816-07:00So why should Catholics give up their belief to &q... <i>So why should Catholics give up their belief to "get along" instead of others giving up their beliefs to "get along"?</i><br /><br />What kind of beliefs are Catholicd being asked to foresake for the greater good? What I see is contraception as it relates to the HHS mandate (which is silly), gay marriage (even more silly) and abortion (which is none of their business). <br /><br />People are not going to put up with Catholics trying to impose their taboos on these and other controversial issues. If that makes Catholics feel "persecuted" that's just too bad. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06976342950011924171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-18040089794136764452013-12-08T12:41:55.705-07:002013-12-08T12:41:55.705-07:00So *we* have to put aside *our* beliefs as Catholi...So *we* have to put aside *our* beliefs as Catholics, because *your* beliefs are the correct ones and bland tolerance of absolutely everything is what the world needs? How...tolerant. ;) <br /><br /><br />Emily Milnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00933015372213757340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-71168284498251619392013-12-08T12:34:10.183-07:002013-12-08T12:34:10.183-07:00Bill, can I offer a suggestion that instead of &qu...Bill, can I offer a suggestion that instead of "getting along" perhaps you could try "treating others with respect"? Now, we will still be worlds apart on what respect entails, but that at least has the potential for a fruitful discussion. Do you see the difference between the two?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com