tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post5471830649991059471..comments2024-03-09T00:51:33.602-07:00Comments on Little Catholic Bubble: Catholics: Your misguided compassion will come back to bite you in the rearLeila@LittleCatholicBubblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comBlogger268125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-79997123944521958682013-03-21T21:24:28.773-07:002013-03-21T21:24:28.773-07:00The Church ought to completely divorce itself from...The Church ought to completely divorce itself from the state, which has set itself up as a false god. Sermons from the pulpits of every 503c tax-exempt church refuses to preach against the sins of the almighty state. To wit: Interference in the parents' obligation and right to educate their children according to the laws of God. Encouraging sinful behavior by subsidizing immoral sex, which in turn creates slaves to the state and fatherless children. It has destroyed the sacrament of marriage. It has fostered the murder of unborn children. It has forbidden the naming of sin as necessary for men and women to soundly repent of evils, and the state has removed personal responsibility from immoral acts by softening the consequences.<br />As a result, the people no longer have the reality of God and His laws. Sexual disorientation is just one more rung down into Hell. We cannot possibly hope to escape the wrath of a just and righteous God who will judge his House first.MmeScherzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08390382094671218366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-90535493396643602622012-05-27T17:30:29.568-07:002012-05-27T17:30:29.568-07:00Michelle: Google Allan Schore (a neuropsychologist...Michelle: Google Allan Schore (a neuropsychologist at UCLA) and his research on affective synchrony. Basically, before a child is able to use language (under the age of two, roughly), his/her right hemisphere is the more active one. Studies of brain activity have shown that a child's mother's right hemisphere "synchs up" with the child's right hemisphere. Then, when the left brain develops more and the child begins to be able to use language, his/her father's left hemisphere can "synch up," as men are usually more left-brain oriented. Now both hemispheres of the child's brain are activated and connected to his/her parents' brains. This seems to help with learning and coping abilities in children.<br />*Disclaimer: Yes, this process doesn't always work perfectly. No, a child is not necessarily doomed if his/her brain doesn't synch up like this. Yes, there are many other factors when it comes to brain development, and yes theoretically you could have a lesbian couple, with a woman who is right-brained and a woman who is left-brained. However, I think this points to an ideal (that is created by nature, not by culture or society), which is a mother and a father raising a child. <br />So as not to steal credit, I must admit that I learned this from my psych professor, who was actually using this research to defend the fact that mothers are often given preference in child custody cases in which the child is less than two years old. I think it applies here, too.Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08779623855722099772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-70533399219320210192011-10-17T11:01:05.643-07:002011-10-17T11:01:05.643-07:00What can I say? As someone I know said : "Ame...What can I say? As someone I know said : "Americans are brainwashed, more than the Western europeans, which in turn are more than Eastern Europeans (hundreds of years of foreign invasions from our <> with darker skin and hair taught us something - that one cannot be tolerant always and with anybody; but of course the inhabitants of Western Europe and USA will learn by seeing what the <> people from Africa, Southern Asia and Latin America begin pouring into developed countries...). Of course Judeo-masonry has its hand in this. "<br />My opinion: you cannot be non-judgemental and non-discriminatory; to live is to discriminate. All that remains to be done is to try to be good in God's eyes, with His help (and grace, for the Christians, :-) ).Cyprishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11246513511169316637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-24261778169718061392011-09-30T19:24:54.920-07:002011-09-30T19:24:54.920-07:00Regarding Fascism, I won't belabor the point s...Regarding Fascism, I won't belabor the point since it is off topic really, but from a social science perspective, on the political spectrum from left to right you generally see communism and fascism as the authoritarian extremes. Communism is progressive left run amok - It is all about "the people" and fascism is nationalism run amok - It is all about the glorious state.<br /><br />Left and right mean different things in different contexts. For example, one can be left or right on social issues, fiscal issues, or in other arenas.<br /><br />I haven't read the particular author you speak of, but I would say his views are not necessarily mainstream insofar as communism and fascism are usually bitter enemies, and the spectrum I spoke of seems pretty well established.<br /><br />Although again, I certainly would not argue that ALL authoritarian governments are built on strong central authority, that in and of itself is not left or right.<br /><br />Left or right describes your /motives/ not your means. Certainly in the context of of his day and age one could argue that Jesus was left of the political center of the Israelites :-p<br /><br />Left and right have a broader meaning than US Politics. If we restricted ourselves to US politics I could see your point more... but even then there are overlaps. The right in the US is traditionally associated with Small Government, yet between USA PATRIOT and creation of Department of Homeland Security we saw some pretty big growth in Government size and power under Bush.<br /><br />As for Iran, I was going more for the idea of "right" as it relates to social issues and conservatism. I am not saying it is in any way equivalent to US culture... but when you are looking at a culture/nation state... Islamic Fundamentalists would be the "right" of that group. Left and right mean "progressive" and "conservative" - without regard for their absolute intrinsic value or correctness.<br /><br />You can't just say right is always good and left is always bad... Well, you can, but I don't believe that is really fair. Neo-Nazis could be called "right." Again, it is not a good/bad label.<br /><br />As for Title IX, I'll take your word on that program. Most programs like that as you note usually have some unintended consequences.Nicholashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10142475137957516460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-15968426713873193402011-09-30T19:03:02.601-07:002011-09-30T19:03:02.601-07:00*When I say it was not agenda-driven, I mean that ...*When I say it was not agenda-driven, I mean that it was "oddly" not agenda-driven, given that the left in this nation (and the major networks are part of the left) usually sides with the left or the feminists in these issues. I guess my point is that even <i>they</i> were struck by the injustice and craziness of what Title IX has wrought. Most of these loony social experiments start out with "good intentions" but they never seem to take note of the horrid outcomes. <br /><br />Anyway, it actually was a heartbreaking story.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-76594892853435572272011-09-30T18:57:55.948-07:002011-09-30T18:57:55.948-07:00I think that we were all taught that Nazism is wha...I think that we were all taught that Nazism is what happens when the "right" goes to far. But Jonah Goldberg's book, <i>Liberal Fascism</i>, has a great summary on its book jacket: <br /><br />"Contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists (hence the term 'National Socialism'). They believed in free health care and guaranteed jobs. They confiscated inherited wealth and spent vast sums on public education. They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into every nook and cranny of daily life. The Nazis declared war on smoking, supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control. They loathed the free market, provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict racial quota system in their universities -- where campus speech codes were all the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal rights activist."<br /><br />Of course, not all of that is bad. However, what part of that looks "right wing"? It's certainly not in the way we think of "right wing" conservatives in America today. They are polar opposites, in fact. So, it's just weird to me that we label things as we do. As for Iran… again, a lack of freedom, heavy handed central gov't (dictatorship). That has nothing to do with the "right wing" in American politics. So, it's just all very strange to me how we educate kids to think that those types of governments are anything like what conservatives in America are aiming for. <br /><br />As far as Title IX: It was a mainstream, liberal show which did the expose. It was not agenda driven (since the major media is all about the left's social agenda, and modern feminism). It was, even then, tragic to watch. It was not just one sports program, but several, all over the nation. It truly was unjust and if you had seen it, you'd agree. It was not about funding, it was about numbers. Even if there was no demand for a woman's fencing team (or whatever, that's an example), and if there was full support and even funding for a men's gymnastic's team (champion team, student support, full funding), the men's team had to go. Totally unjust. Mindless, infuriating bureaucratic mandates, all to promote the left's social agenda. <br /><br />I just can't do it justice here, but I had heard about this problem before I had seen the show. The show was just the thing that really upset me and I thought about it for days. There are few things I hate more than injustice. Seriously, that will send me over.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-42052278151852660072011-09-30T13:56:40.425-07:002011-09-30T13:56:40.425-07:00It is my understanding that Fascism is the standar...It is my understanding that Fascism is the standard example for "right wing" totalitarianism.<br /><br />I have never heard of the Nazis as communists. They hated communism. So we may just have a different understanding of fascism as left vs right. A quick Google to make sure I am not just crazy/bad memory... I am not familiar with your source but Nazi as right wing isn't my sole delusion at least :-)<br /><br />I suppose really where the disconnect is going to be is what is left vs right. I will go out on a limb and guess that the fact that totalitarian regimes share the characteristic of strong centralization of power you might consider that intrinsically left?<br /><br />But what about say, Iran? They have a religious theocracy that has totalitarian characteristics, and I wouldn't say it was leftist.<br /><br />Left and right can be used as both positive and pejorative terms in my view.<br /><br />I have no doubt that Title IX has some valid criticism, but the loss of a gymnastics program at a school might be a shame, but not one I am going to lose sleep over it. I am going to guess there is another side to that story. At the very least I suppose we can debate whether the government should be subsidizing college gymnastics programs at all in that case.<br /><br />Again, I am not familiar with the specific case you cite, but in a blog where semantics are often discussed, I do not know if the lack of a federally funded gymnastics program can be construed as "hurt" so much as disappointed or inconvenienced.Nicholashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10142475137957516460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-1401800509598933562011-09-30T10:39:31.267-07:002011-09-30T10:39:31.267-07:00Homophobia and what it means was discussed a lot. ...<i>Homophobia and what it means was discussed a lot. I actually found Leila's points to be quite good, and I would agree that it is too often used as a cheap means to frame the argument. However, I would not go so far as to say the term was wholly invalid. Homosexual people face a lot of discrimination and violence that is wrong.</i><br /><br />And, Nicholas, I agree on this. There is a fake homophobia used to smear the Church and Christians, and then there is a real and ugly hatred against gay people.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-69616240707355171922011-09-30T09:58:10.445-07:002011-09-30T09:58:10.445-07:00Nicholas, great thoughts!
A couple of things: Ti...Nicholas, great thoughts! <br /><br />A couple of things: Title IX has been a disaster for a lot of good people and programs. I watched a whole Dateline (or something) that made me want to scream about the injustice. A much-beloved and championship men's gymnastics team had to disband on a university campus. <i>NOT</i> from lack of interest and <i>NOT</i> from lack of funding (they had private funds that could have supported the whole program!), but because Title IX rules would not allow it to continue. It was so unfair, totally unjust. The college men and the coach were crying. They were angry. Those types of bureaucratic decisions, based on social engineering and a political agenda of "equality" (equal numbers, equal outcomes) just make me sick, and they hurt people. With no gain for anyone. Nothing was gained in that, and they were not the only sports entity that endured this. It was simply the one they chose to spotlight. But it goes on in universities all over America. Very sad, very ridiculous, very hurtful. I wish I could direct you to that piece, but I can't remember enough details about the program.<br /><br /><i>Totalitarian regimes come in both left wing and right wing flavors.</i><br /><br />Can you give me some examples of the "right wing" (what does that mean?) and which totalitarian regimes you mean? This interests me ever since I've read Jonah Goldberg regarding the Nazis (who were not right wing, but socialists).Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-64335990133814593082011-09-30T07:46:13.353-07:002011-09-30T07:46:13.353-07:00Well, I missed this discussion, but I'll tack ...Well, I missed this discussion, but I'll tack a few points on the end here anyway. I am certainly the type of person Leila was directing this post at, pretty much to a T.<br /><br />I will say it is a very difficult thing. People want for everyone to be happy wherever possible, and there is such a secular/religious divide in the US that it becomes very difficult integrate the two in many ways.<br /><br />While I remain highly conflicted, I strongly suspect that as a matter of civil law it will be inevitable. I can appreciate the position outlined here a lot more than I was willing to give it credit for a few weeks ago, but I am not sure the tide can be turned back.<br /><br />From the comments, Title IX was brought up somehow? I don't see Title IX as bad.<br /><br />Homophobia and what it means was discussed a lot. I actually found Leila's points to be quite good, and I would agree that it is too often used as a cheap means to frame the argument. However, I would not go so far as to say the term was wholly invalid. Homosexual people face a lot of discrimination and violence that is wrong.<br /><br />Critical thinking was discussed. A useful skill for all, but in fairness obedience to the Church doesn't tax it more than anyone else :-p<br /><br />Totalitarian regimes come in both left wing and right wing flavors.<br /><br />Ethnocentrism was debated in what looks like a prequel to the moral relativism debate of the last few days. Context clues and critical thinking inform me that it was a poor word choice trying to simulate something like "religiocentrism" or really just say that the Catholic position was based on an assumption that it is inherently right... Which is true :-p This notion of morality as part of the marketplace of ideas is what leads to this disconnect in communication in a lot of these debates.<br /><br />As far as Catholic Charities adoption services being forced to shut down rather than refer... That makes sense to me, and frankly it is the price that the Church pays when it gets in bed with the Government.<br /><br />Here is the thing... Unlike say, running a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter, the Church as ZERO legal authority to set up adoptions on its own. Presumably there are licensing and other requirements. And the civil government is very keen on equality in all things, so it doesn't surprise me that there would be an all or nothing stance in a state position.<br /><br />We have essentially created a wall between church and state, that is probably far more expansive than the Framers ever intended, and has really shifted from freedom of religion to freedom from religion, if I am allowed a pithy phrase.<br /><br />Barring some reversal of that trend, which seems highly unlikely I am not sure that the Church's position will be able to maintain much traction.Nicholashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10142475137957516460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-10855598303446537812011-09-01T10:39:01.710-07:002011-09-01T10:39:01.710-07:00a few things noted and questions,
I think Gwen did...a few things noted and questions,<br />I think Gwen did a great job in expressing her thoughts. I think many on both sides did, but Gwen impressed me a great deal.<br />As for catholic adoption, if the church will stop accepting monies from the states, starts paying taxes on all the money they make and their properties, then I am ok with them saying no to gay couples adopting. Until that happens my gay taxes help them so they cannot discriminate against me.<br />When speaking of marriage I assume we are talking about the religious marriage? If so then my question is how many of you are married in the legal sense? You know with a license from the state you live in. See this is what "gay marriage" is about. The legal protections of marriage.<br />Two couples come in to adopt a child, a heterosexual one and a gay one. Now lets just say you know the heterosexual one is going to beat the child. Who do you give it to? Extreme? maybe, but the long and short of it is that you have no idea who the people are or how they will treat the child. <br />Morals, well that is a tough one. Morals are not absolute at all. Your morals are not my morals and vice versa. I am a good person who happens to be gay. I do not hate others, even catholics, for their views. You are allowed your views and beliefs. But the question is why do you think that I have to be held to your moral standards in whom I love and whom I marry.<br />Finally I really don't understand the chaste comments I guess. What I take from that is that you do not have sex for any kind of pleasure but only have it when you wish to procreate?<br /><br />AlanLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-62589628238510405362011-08-29T07:44:40.076-07:002011-08-29T07:44:40.076-07:00Unknown, let's take your thoughts on "lov...Unknown, let's take your thoughts on "love thy neighbor" literally, in an eros sense:<br /><br /><i>A man and a women are in love. In LOVE. Sure they are both married to other people and have families, but they are more real to each other than anything else they know. Two people who could happily exist separate from the world because they have each other. This love is not a choice, it is simply there. They cannot choose to feel it or not to feel it. It is who they are.<br /><br />And they can't get married because a book taught you to fear and cast out people like them (adulterers). A book full of declarations of love and acceptance. Your Christ was a great man, so the book says. He loved all of God's children. All of them. Unconditional Godly love. You cannot manage an iota of that same love for someone who shares the same planet as you because of who they love?<br /><br />We are born on this Earth, live on this Earth and will die on this Earth. If there is a God, he did not put us here to fight and bicker and dispute one another. We are here for such a short time, let's make the most of it. Let's try to spare some love for someone different than us. <br /><br />Love thy neighbor. </i><br /><br />Unknown, if you are consistent, you would not deny the morality of those two people to have an adulterous affair. Because love is love, and we must always act on it, right?<br /><br />Also, eternity is much longer than our life on this earth. You are correct that life is short and we must live it in virtue and <i>true</i> love. What is true love? Look at a crucifix: It shows that love is total sacrifice of self, even unto death. <br /><br />And what was Christ's death for? To free us from sin, including the ones that you are advocating.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-9190694896605618002011-08-29T07:37:52.101-07:002011-08-29T07:37:52.101-07:00Unknown,
Read the following from a former lesbian...Unknown,<br /><br />Read the following from a former lesbian to understand why "love" is not enough:<br /><br />http://littlecatholicbubble.blogspot.com/2011/07/from-awesome-gay-lifestyle-to-catholic.html<br /><br />(And no one has every answered the problem of a love which can in no way be consummated? Even the state knows to annul civil marriages that are not consummated.)<br /><br />As for the Bible, yes, it says homosexuality is a sin. But so does the orthodoxy of every major world religion. There is a reason for that. It's not just some funny, arbitrary little quirk. It's natural law, and it does not change.<br /><br />JoAnna is right about NAMBLA. The gay lobby has just had better PR (so far) than the man/boy lovers. <br /><br />Eliz, thank you. And DD, thank you from speaking from the deep pain of your own experience, and that of you son.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-66648397919610434892011-08-29T07:25:11.119-07:002011-08-29T07:25:11.119-07:00Two men or two women are in love. In LOVE. They ar...<i>Two men or two women are in love. In LOVE. They are more real to each other than anything else they know. Two people who could happily exist separate from the world because they have each other. This love is not a choice, it is simply there. They cannot choose to feel it or not to feel it. It is who they are.</i><br /><br />Unknown,<br /><br />Do you realize that this is exactly, EXACTLY, the same argument that NAMBLA et al put forward for lowering the age of consent?<br /><br />Eliza is right. You have a very limited understanding of what love truly is.JoAnna Wahlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09942928659520676271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-26947136930732945182011-08-29T04:39:48.411-07:002011-08-29T04:39:48.411-07:00A father can always only be a father. Never a moth...A father can always only be a father. Never a mother. As a single mom, my son craves the attention of men. He gravitates to men wherever we go, even men I don't think he should be around. Even if I had a female partner (which I did before turning away from the homosexual lifestyle), it wouldn't meet his innate need for a father figure. So no, two men cannot meet the need for a mother. Two mothers cannot meet the need for a father. <br />DDDDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02274091412731174214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-78473835853614800532011-08-29T03:24:19.706-07:002011-08-29T03:24:19.706-07:00Dear Unknown,
the same Man also demonstrated to ...Dear Unknown, <br /><br />the same Man also demonstrated to us what love actually is -- that it is not something which you cannot control, but it is rather a purposeful choice you make. <br /><br />He also said that if we love Him, we will obey what He commands (and loving Him is the only commandment greater than "love thy neighbor"). His commands include that we should not sin, and should not facilitate sin in others. Through the letters of the Bible, we are shown that homosexuality is considered a sin. <br /><br />Godly love does not mean "live and let live". It is so much more than that. It is not passive, but active and interactive, pulling us to good things and compelling us away from sin, even through discipline. <br /><br />I do agree that we should love, but I do not think we have the same understanding of what godly love is. <br /><br />Also, this doesn't face the issue of whether the gov't has the right to shut down faith based charities based on discrimination, which in my opinion, cannot be compared to skin color. As illustrated elsewhere, adoption is a process based on discrimination. You discriminate for income, current housing, family size, etc., but for what reason is morality not allowed into the equation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-41305395174375911802011-08-29T02:06:03.845-07:002011-08-29T02:06:03.845-07:00Two men or two women are in love. In LOVE. They ar...Two men or two women are in love. In LOVE. They are more real to each other than anything else they know. Two people who could happily exist separate from the world because they have each other. This love is not a choice, it is simply there. They cannot choose to feel it or not to feel it. It is who they are.<br /><br />And they can't get married because a book taught you to fear and cast out people like them. A book full of declarations of love and acceptance. Your Christ was a great man, so the book says. He loved all of God's children. All of them. Unconditional Godly love. You cannot manage an iota of that same love for someone who shares the same planet as you because of who they love?<br /><br />We are born on this Earth, live on this Earth and will die on this Earth. If there is a God, he did not put us here to fight and bicker and dispute one another. We are here for such a short time, let's make the most of it. Let's try to spare some love for someone different than us. <br /><br />Love thy neighbor.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07572186282793655796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-20386215794658670482011-08-28T16:49:44.072-07:002011-08-28T16:49:44.072-07:00Monica, great questions and I hope she will answer...Monica, great questions and I hope she will answer.<br /><br />Liesl, FOCUS is <i>awesome</i>!!<br /><br />Kayla, it makes this post all worth it. :)<br /><br />Lena, I often want to scream, too!Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-9026620206805147552011-08-28T14:49:50.323-07:002011-08-28T14:49:50.323-07:00I realize screaming does not help the case for Cat...I realize screaming does not help the case for Catholicism.<br /><br />What is the state going to do when it has children in need and can't call Catholic Charities??Lenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09173616693453942166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-28437179024162446572011-08-28T14:33:26.063-07:002011-08-28T14:33:26.063-07:00This CC issue is just another reason why I find th...This CC issue is just another reason why I find the Illinois state government distressing.<br /><br />And what about all the children in CC's care?<br /><br />This just makes me want to scream. AAAAhhhhLenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09173616693453942166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-39806672431372575592011-08-28T13:49:08.659-07:002011-08-28T13:49:08.659-07:00I like this article Leila, it's something that...I like this article Leila, it's something that I know I need to think and pray about a lot. I admit to being one of those Catholics, who thinks "live and let live" and I did believe that it wouldn't affect my life, or the life of my church. But I've been seeing the news stories, and watching the ripple effects that I honestly never expected. And now I know that I will have to rethink a lot of things.Kayla @ Petersons On The Gohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673376586692323827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-14520601994686493272011-08-28T13:03:51.171-07:002011-08-28T13:03:51.171-07:00Vuyo - yes I agree that Christians are being stepp...Vuyo - yes I agree that Christians are being stepped on everywhere. I guess I just expect more from a country that was founded on the basis of those seeking religious freedom. <br /><br />I do see hope in the numbers that are coming into the Church these days - yes, the Pope has declared a path for Anglicans to come back into the Church, and many have taken him up on this offer. Even being on college campuses for the past few years has also given me hope. I got to witness the work of FOCUS last year and see so many young lives transformed by Christ and his Church. Leila's said it many times before - the Church will always prevail!Lieslhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04568652187821916186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-36804994898864854732011-08-28T11:50:19.868-07:002011-08-28T11:50:19.868-07:00If the entire earth's population was faithful ...If the entire earth's population was faithful to one partner and gay, we'd all die off. We would be extinct after two generations. Biologically and morally, two people of the opposite sex are necessary. <br /><br />Reaching for fringe examples of two women in a tribe having a male surrogate still means a man is necessary. <br /><br />Saying that no difference is observable or necessary is just inane.Nubbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15972118374098863290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-74666114281309084632011-08-28T11:26:17.500-07:002011-08-28T11:26:17.500-07:00Michelle, if I can summarize-
You and I both agre...Michelle, if I can summarize-<br /><br />You and I both agree that there is an inherent difference between men and women, even if we can't put our finger on it exactly. This is why we are both capable of identifying our own sexual preference as heterosexual, as opposed to bisexual. There is just something (and it's not a penis) that makes men suitable mates for us, but not women. Do you agree?<br /><br />However, you do not believe these inherent differences bring anything to the table for child-rearing. M/M, F/F, and M/F parents are absolutely interchangeable, if we ignore the biological aspect of procreation, in your opinion.<br /><br />The fact that we have evolved as a species and are specially adapted to have M/F parents is irrelevant. Is this a fair representation of your opinion?<br /><br />The fact that gay couples are NATURALLY STERILE makes you see them as MORE preferable as adoptive parents, not less. Yes?<br /><br />Whether or not parents are biologically related to the child is irrelevant in your opinion. True? <br /><br />I am just trying to be sure of your position. I understand if you are done though. It was nice talking to you!Monicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11501575551066939483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-240447238522390484.post-41457146977582732502011-08-28T08:47:10.643-07:002011-08-28T08:47:10.643-07:00Calling two gay guys "an infertile couple&quo...Calling two gay guys "an infertile couple" is like calling a man and a bear "an infertile couple".<br /><br />Ummmm, yeah.Leila@LittleCatholicBubblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09357573787143230160noreply@blogger.com